I remember the exact moment where I first explored MercuryOS. It was clear Jason Yuan was one of the most skilled design thinkers I'd ever encountered. No wonder he landed a role designing AI products at Apple shortly after.

But the main reason I wanted to interview him was to learn more about his new product called Dot. It's by far my favorite personal AI and a beautifully designed experience. So this conversation is a behind-the-scenes of his latest journey and a fun glimpse at what the future might hold for software products. We go deep into:

• What it looks like to design with soul
• What makes Jason’s design process unique
• Why Jason left Apple to build New Computer
• How Dot is the spiritual successor to MercuryOS
• How more designers need to become AI engineers
• Why Jason thinks dynamic interfaces are over-hyped
• How to design a product based on one magical interaction
• What Jason learned about storytelling from his background in theatre
• a lot more

• Download Dot or check out the website
• Jason's original MercuryOS project
• The original Dot website featuring Mei’s story (from the Wayback machine so give it a minute to load)
• Jason references Shigeru Miyamoto (the creator of Super Mario Bros)