This episode discusses the recent successes of Indonesia's partners in ASEAN, the role of the USA and China in the region, and how Indonesia might pivot as we move into the 21st century. Housed in the context of Indonesia's place in the dynamic Asia-Pacific region, discussions of wealth inequality, oligarchy, and the inability for Indonesia to capitalize on its vast potential as a regional powerhouse are prominent. Jeffrey Winters engages the conversation about the obstacles to Indonesia's future prosperity in an uncertain global future while detailing the rising Indonesian scholars' optimistic role in navigating these challenges.