What’s good people! Today we have long time friend friend Jelly Roll. He explains how he got Little Ron, what lead him to his biggest song ever “Save Me”, and why Taylor Swift is the Michael Jackson of country. INDULGE!

00:00 Flagrant nearly ended Jelly Roll + “Open Er’ up”

04:49 Publicist quit after 72 hours

07:34 Jelly Roll = C0v1d’s dream + Mask Politics

08:34 Trajectory’s been insane + dealing with success

12:36 Jelly Roll’s criminal past

17:49 Trying to buy childhood home

18:55 Mom was special but troubled + power of music

20:43 Importance of the Rose

23:18 “Save Me”

32:25 Our favourite country singer = Lainey Wilson

35:18 Moment it took off

36:49 Success exposes you to yourself

37:56 Chase the cool not money

39:48 Bunnie Xo is a G + meeting for 1st time

50:35 Marrying Bunnie brought BENEFITS

55:52 Be fully open and honest about everything

59:11 Women know what they’re doing + fugged up credit

01:01:19 Taking everything seriously

01:06:27 Lil Ron adoption + lil people MEAT

01:16:56 Hard to fire people + Bunnie has her own bus

01:18:52 Scary Larry

01:21:25 Letting go creatively, insane venues & production

01:24:40 Taylor Swift is genuinely brilliant

01:31:46 Curating a Churchlike experience

01:33:58 Real connection with fans

01:37:22 Being lucky + dreaming BIG

01:40:51 Dreaming unrealistically

01:45:01 Dream collaborations + That Mexican OT

01:49:31 The Weeknd & maintaining mystery

01:53:25 Travis Scott + Lil Yachty are elite

01:57:37 Shrooms to create + constantly uncomfortable

02:00:55 Feeling like you’ve said everything

02:04:54 Time to decompress properly + cycle writing

02:09:41 Jelly Roll able to vocalise what we feel

02:10:14 Genius of Willie Nelson + creating authentically

02:14:05 Being rich makes you political

02:16:33 Jelly’s relationship with God & Church

02:22:16 The Church will die by weaponising Jesus

02:26:49 The feeling that DMX created

02:28:58 Abusing power + bringing people to God

02:34:47 All boats are floating

02:35:53 RAPID CITY BUY DEM TICKETS

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