As we continue our special Resilience Series, we're so pleased to welcome Jen Gotch. Jen is a truly inspiring creative, entrepreneur, and mental health advocate. As the founder of ban.do, Jen has taken an unlikely path to success that includes embracing flaws and understanding the influence of mental illness on her creativity.

Today, Jessica and Jen talk about doing the hard and purposeful work of getting calm, grounded, and overcoming fear through regulation of our nervous systems. During these difficult times, this conversion gives timely advice for learning more about ourselves even in the midst of adversity.

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