In a culture where relationship longevity is at an all-time low, even within the church, how can we build relationships that truly last? In this insightful conversation, Dr. Carol talks with Dr. John Van Epp, a leading relationship expert, pastor, professor, and creator of curricula for singles, engaged couples, and married couples. With over a million people impacted by his programs in both faith-based and secular settings, Dr. Van Epp brings much practical wisdom rooted in research and Scripture. Together, they explore the Relationship Attachment Model (RAM) and how it offers a framework for making wise, emotionally healthy choices in dating and marriage. You'll hear why character must take priority over chemistry, and how this model can help both you and your kids avoid unnecessary heartache. Whether you're navigating your own relationships or guiding the next generation, this conversation offers clarity, hope, and tools to cultivate God-honoring love. Find Dr. Van Epp's book How to Avoid Falling in Love with a Jerk: the foolproof way to follow your heart without losing your mind Check out the wealth of resources available at Love Thinks - books, online courses, and other resources Consider sharing the Relationship Attachment Model for a churchwide relationship series Check out Love Thinks on Facebook or YouTube. Find out more about Dr. Carol Ministries in-person intensives - a safe place to unpack your story and experience Jesus coming into your story to bring healing and wholeness. Check out our YourSexpectations hub - resources in several formats to help you find wholeness around intimacy and relationships Dr. Carol loves to hear from you. You can send a confidential message here.