COP 26 is done, climate change has had its week leading the news agenda...now that happens next? Is it all blah, blah blah...or are enough people now calling for lasting, meaningful change?

Locally, we have the trade-off between carbon neutrality and net zero - and a focus on, basically, how much you use your car, how often you fly, and how you heat your home. So, what's happened to recycling? Rather than worrying about what bin to put our plastic bottles in, should we really be thinking about all the new stuff we'll buy for Christmas, which a few steps down the road, we'll then be taking to La Collette to be 'recycled'.

On this week's pod, we look at behaviour change and the curse of 'newness' with Emma Richardson-Calladine, who was the recycling manager with the Government for around 14 years, but has now moved into her own consultancy - called Waving Back - focusing on sustainability.

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