Our guest in this episode is Doctor Jess Murphy who is the convenor of the Champions of Change architecture group, which was formed in 2015 to address the acute underrepresentation of women in the senior levels of the architecture profession at the time. The Architecture Group now has 14 practices actively participating to increase the representation and influence of women at the highest levels of the profession. Jess shares how important it is for practices to be transparent about what's happening with regards to gender equity, the change that can come from formal and informal leadership, and the effect that the systems inherent in architecture have on people that lead to so many people leaving the profession. The interview is conducted by Sally Hsu who is an EmAGN representative based in New South Wales.