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We’ve both known the heavy weight of shame—the kind that tells you not just that you’ve failed, but that you are a failure. In this episode, we open up about how shame has tried to define us and how God’s Word gives us a different story. Hebrews 12:2 shows us how Jesus “scorned” shame as He faced the cross, counting it insignificant compared to the joy before Him. That perspective gives us hope too. We talk about the different places shame comes from—our own mistakes, wounds from others, or lies we’ve believed—and how speaking truth to our souls, like the psalmist in Psalm 42–43, can break shame’s grip.

We also walk through a practical five-step process that’s been life-changing for us: bringing shame into the light, asking God to reveal its roots, confessing or releasing it, replacing the lies with His truth, and finally, praising Him for the exchange. We share real tools—like creating “truth lists” from Scripture and journaling exercises—that have helped us move from shame toward freedom. Our heart is for you to know this: shame doesn’t get the last word in your story. In Christ, you can exchange shame for joy, ashes for beauty, and captivity for freedom.

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