Today, POLITICO Energy host Josh Siegel sits down for an extended interview with Jigar Shah, the former director of the Department of Energy’s Loan Programs Office under the Biden administration where he oversaw billions of dollars in government loans to America’s energy sector. Siegel and Shah discuss Biden’s clean energy legacy, the second Trump administration, the future of government financing, DOGE and more.

Josh Siegel is an energy reporter for POLITICO. 

Nirmal Mulaikal is a POLITICO audio host-producer.

Annie Rees is the managing producer for audio at POLITICO.

Gloria Gonzalez is the deputy energy editor for POLITICO. 

Matt Daily is the energy editor for POLITICO.

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