JoAnna Ferrari and I explore the secret self. Who is this that lives within us. Do you allow her/him to shine to be heard and to be seem. What s the secret self and how do we touch this part of us? http://karenswain.com/joanna-ferrari-the-secret-self/

Listen to my wonderful conversation with the fabulous JoAnna Ferrari. We talk about change, transition and being more of our secret self. In her old life she was an A type alpha male, brilliant business person, motivational speaker coach, husband, father and today she is a brilliant business person, Inspirational speaker, personal coach, parent, friend, partner and transformational teacher. This is a very real conversation of ripping off the labels we give each other and becoming more one.

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