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“Jobs, Relationships, and Other Cults” by Ruby, Elizabeth


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For years I (Elizabeth) have been trying to write out my grant unified theory of [good/bad/high-variance/high-investment] [jobs/relationships/religions/social groups]. In this dialogue me (Elizabeth) and Ruby throw a bunch of component models back and forth and get all the way to better defining the question. 🎉

Elizabeth

About a year ago someone published Common Knowledge About Leverage Research, which IIRC had some information that was concerning but not devastating. You showed me a draft of a reply you wrote to that post, that pointed out lots of similar things Lightcone/LessWrong did and how, yeah, they could look bad, but they could also be part of a fine trade-off. Before you could publish that, an ex-employee of Leverage published a much more damning account.

This feels to me like it encapsulates part of a larger system of trade-offs. Accomplishing big things sometimes requires weirdness, and sometimes sacrifice, but places telling you [...]

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First published:

March 13th, 2024

Source:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qZELudpvcmaronerv/jobs-relationships-and-other-cults

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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