Joe's struggles to finish the surfing saga as it's been too long and he can't recreate the life changing moment when he was surfing in California. They quickly move on to how a bookcase stuffed full of books makes you feel intelligent. Joe's bookcase is cluttered with untidy books much to David's disgust. They talk about what it's like to retire and being free from the daily grind at a young'ish age but Joe worries about running out of money by retiring too young. Campervanning is suggested as a perfect post-retirement activity. David's been to Totnes market and tries to tell Joe about it. The surfing ep morphs into a cosy ep.

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