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In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Shawn Brown, an MSP leader and automation expert, to discuss the future of managed services, M&A strategies, and the impact of automation on business growth. As the force behind Snap Tech IT and Raven Automation, Shawn shares how automation, structured processes, and strategic growth have helped MSPs scale more efficiently.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ M&A for MSPs: What MSPs should consider before selling or acquiring, and why culture fit is crucial.
✅ The Role of Automation: How hyperautomation is transforming MSP operations, improving efficiency, and cutting costs.
✅ Leadership & Growth: The importance of peer groups, business frameworks like EOS, and sales strategies for long-term success.
Shawn also shares his insights on cybersecurity, organic growth strategies, and the challenges MSPs face in hiring top talent. He dives into how automation is helping MSPs streamline operations, reduce workload, and drive profitability.
For MSP owners looking to scale, improve efficiency, and stay competitive in the evolving IT landscape, this conversation is packed with actionable insights.
#MSP #Automation #Hyperautomation #MSPGrowth #MergersAndAcquisitions #TechLeadership #BusinessScaling #ITStrategy #Cybersecurity #Efficiency
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Discipline. How does it play a role in your life? How does it drive your decisions? Do you have too much or too little? Every profession, hobby, or passion requires a level of discipline. I have used it in weight loss (+130 lbs.), family death, and found a +25 year business. Am I an expert? Absolutely not! Please join me, as I speak to interesting people and find out how discipline affects their career, life, goals, and decisions. Join me as I talk to interesting people in: #Health, #Fitness & #Wellness: #Business, #Technology & #Science: #Art & #Culture: Website: joeyp

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In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Nick Recker, a seasoned MSP founder and business leader, to discuss scaling MSPs, leadership, faith, and the evolving role of AI. With a background in tech, mergers, and entrepreneurship, Nick shares his journey from building a successful MSP to launching Blue Alliance, an MSP platform focused on sustainable growth.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ The Role of M&A in MSP Growth: Why acquisitions can work—but only with the right cultural fit.
✅ Faith & Leadership: How spirituality plays a key role in running a business with integrity and purpose.
✅ AI & The Future of MSPs: Why MSPs must evolve beyond maintaining old technologies and integrate AI-driven innovation.
Nick also opens up about his love for farming, auto racing, and the discipline required to balance personal growth with business success. He shares insights on human capital, cybersecurity, and the biggest challenges facing MSPs today—from hiring the right talent to driving organic growth in a changing landscape.
If you’re an MSP owner, entrepreneur, or leader looking to scale your business, build a strong culture, and navigate the future of IT, this episode is packed with invaluable insights!
#MSP #TechLeadership #BusinessGrowth #MergersAndAcquisitions #FaithAndBusiness #AIInnovation #ManagedServices #Cybersecurity #ScalingMSPs


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In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Hardin Byars, a seasoned executive coach and leadership expert, to discuss the power of coaching, leadership development, and business transformation. With decades of experience guiding CEOs, executives, and high-performing teams, Hardin shares his insights on self-awareness, strategic growth, and the discipline required to lead effectively.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ The Power of Coaching: Why great leaders focus on asking the right questions rather than giving all the answers.
✅ Self-Awareness & Growth: How understanding your strengths and weaknesses leads to better leadership and long-term success.
✅ The Future of AI & Business: Hardin’s surprising perspective on how AI-driven innovation will impact the MSP and leadership landscape.
Hardin also shares how discipline plays a key role in leadership, why coaching is about helping others unlock their own potential, and how he measures success—not by money, but by the impact he has on others.
If you’re a business leader, MSP owner, or executive looking to improve leadership skills, build a stronger team, and drive success, this episode is packed with invaluable insights!
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#Leadership #ExecutiveCoaching #BusinessGrowth #MSPStrategy #SelfAwareness #CoachingSuccess #TechLeadership #AIInnovation #GrowthMindset

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In this episode, Joey Pinz chats with Tom Hermstad, an MSP veteran with 30 years in the industry, about cybersecurity, business growth, and leadership. From the early days of managed services to navigating today’s cyber threats, Tom shares what MSPs must do to stay competitive and secure.

💡 Top 3 Highlights:

✅ The Evolution of MSPs: How Tom built his 30-year MSP without break-fix, embracing managed services before it was mainstream.

✅ Cybersecurity & The Right of Boom: Why MSPs must shift from prevention to incident response, and how Tom prepares his clients for the inevitable.

✅ Culture & Leadership: Why a strong company culture and employee retention strategies are the keys to MSP longevity and success.

Tom also discusses his passion for cybersecurity, how EOS transformed his business, and why financial acumen is critical for MSPs today. Plus, he shares insights on how MSPs can leverage peer groups, coaching, and business frameworks to scale sustainably.

If you’re an MSP looking to future-proof your business, improve cybersecurity resilience, and build a lasting legacy, this episode is packed with insights you can’t afford to miss!

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#MSP #Cybersecurity #RightOfBoom #TechLeadership #BusinessGrowth #MSPSecurity #EOS #MSPStrategy #IncidentResponse #MSPSuccess

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In this episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Terrell "TJ" Jackson, founder of Culture Fits, to discuss the key to MSP success—culture, hiring, and growth. With years of experience in MSP recruitment and M&A strategy, TJ shares how MSPs can attract top talent, retain key employees, and position themselves for acquisition success.

💡 Top 3 Highlights:

✅ Culture-Driven Hiring: Why MSPs need to align their hiring strategy with their company culture for long-term success.

✅ Preparing for M&A: How TJ helped an MSP scale from 23 to 62 employees, increasing its valuation from $4M to $14M in just four years.

✅ Leadership & Employee Retention: Why recognition, growth opportunities, and strong leadership are crucial for keeping top talent.

TJ also dives into why he shifted his mindset from personal success to community impact, how faith and spirituality guide his leadership, and why MSPs that ignore culture risk losing everything. If you're an MSP looking to scale, hire the right people, and build a thriving business, this episode is packed with valuable insights!

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#MSP #BusinessGrowth #EOS #MSPMergers #ITNation #TechLeadership #ScalingMSPs #Cybersecurity #MSPStrategy

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In this episode, Joey Pinz chats with Jon Cooper, an MSP veteran with over 25 years in the industry. From starting as a break-fix shop in 1999 to growing Total Secure Technology through acquisitions, Jon shares his lessons on business growth, leadership, and the power of EOS.

💡 Top 3 Highlights:

✅ From Break-Fix to MSP: How Jon transitioned his company in 2006 and the book that changed everything.

✅ Mergers & Acquisitions Strategy: Why Jon focuses on tucking in MSPs within a specific West Coast region to ensure smooth integration.

✅ The Power of EOS & Structure: How following a proven system like EOS and peer groups fuels success in MSPs.

Jon also discusses avoiding predatory acquisitions, the importance of culture fit, and how MSPs can scale without losing their identity. He shares personal insights on health, routine, and discipline, including his 28-year journey in Alcoholics Anonymous and how structure leads to success.

If you’re looking to grow your MSP, prepare for M&A, or streamline operations, this episode is packed with actionable insights!

#MSP #BusinessGrowth #EOS #MSPMergers #ITNation #TechLeadership #ScalingMSPs #Cybersecurity #MSPStrategy

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In this insightful episode, Joey Pinz chats with Kevin Hagemoser, a business integrator and EOS expert who helps MSPs scale, merge, and improve operations. With a background in entrepreneurship and private equity, Kevin shares why MSPs struggle with growth, security, and talent retention—and how they can overcome these challenges.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ Mergers & Acquisitions: What MSPs need to prepare before selling and why EOS plays a crucial role in scaling.
✅ Overcoming Growth Challenges: Why MSPs struggle with sales and marketing, and how clarity in ideal customers makes all the difference.
✅ Accountability & Success Metrics: The key elements MSPs need—peer groups, operating systems, and coaching—to ensure consistent growth.
Kevin also dives into his ACE framework, how MSPs can use EOS without being rigid, and why solopreneurs need to rethink how they scale. If you’re running an MSP and looking for strategies to grow, prepare for M&A, or improve operational efficiency, this episode is packed with valuable insights!

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In this engaging episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Brian Hoppe, a former MSP owner turned executive coach and consultant. Brian shares his journey from growing an MSP to selling it at the right time and why he now helps other MSPs navigate growth, security, and leadership challenges.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ The Right Time to Sell: How Brian knew when to exit his MSP and the biggest lessons from the process.
✅ Keys to MSP Growth: The three essentials every MSP needs—peer groups, business frameworks, and executive coaching.
✅ MSP Pain Points: Security threats, hiring challenges, and the struggle for organic growth—how MSPs can tackle them head-on.
Brian also discusses vertical vs. horizontal MSP models, the importance of defining success, and why company culture is critical for talent retention. Whether you’re an MSP owner looking for guidance or considering an exit strategy, this episode is packed with invaluable insights!

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In this insightful episode, Joey Pinz sits down with Kass Lawrence, who brings a wealth of experience from the MSP world and cybersecurity. From supporting her husband’s MSP to transitioning into sales and security with Blumera, Kass shares her unexpected journey into the industry, the realities of MSP life, and why she never wants to own one herself.
💡 Top 3 Highlights:
✅ MSP Challenges: Kass discusses the biggest pain points for MSPs—cybersecurity threats, talent retention, and growth.
✅ Transparency in Sales: Why being honest and direct with MSPs builds trust and avoids empty promises.
✅ Tool Overload & Security: How MSPs can avoid redundant tools, consolidate their stacks, and stay secure without overspending.
Kass shares her experience attending IT Nation Evolve in Houston, how she connects with MSPs, and the one skill salespeople struggle with most—saying NO. If you want real talk on MSPs, cybersecurity, and sales, this episode is a must-listen!

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Title: 🚀 How Evergreen is Reshaping MSP Acquisitions
Summary:
In this insightful episode of Joey Pinz Disciple Conversations, we dive into the fascinating journey of Evergreen’s mergers and acquisitions strategy within the Managed Service Provider (MSP) industry. From earning a golf scholarship at USC to leading over 90 MSP acquisitions with 5,000+ employees, our guest shares how lessons from the golf course translate to the boardroom.
Top 3 Highlights:
 1. 🌿 Evergreen’s Unique Model: Discover how Evergreen keeps MSPs independent post-acquisition, ensuring legacy and culture are preserved.
 2. 🏋️ From Fairways to Finance: Learn how a collegiate golf background shaped decision-making and strategy in the world of M&A.
 3. 🌊 Navigating MSP Growth: Explore the recurring revenue model’s role in making MSPs attractive for acquisition and how Evergreen fosters leadership succession.
Whether you're an MSP owner considering an exit or intrigued by the art of business growth, this episode offers valuable insights into building lasting legacies.
Hashtags: #MSPAcquisitions #BusinessGrowth #MergersAndAcquisitions #Entrepreneurship #LeadershipJourney #GolfAndBusiness #EvergreenModel #MSPCommunity #BusinessLegacy #FinancialStrategy

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