John Kelley from The Backpacking Podcast joins the show as a guest host to discuss backpacking gear we used to hate, but now we like. Carl accuses John of intentionally sabotaging the upcoming Red River Gorge Patreon trip. And Carl confesses to purchasing something he told everybody to avoid. Also, some serious punishments are on the line for Terrible Products Trivia.

Some of the topics discussed:

-Tents vs. Hammocks

-Synthetic vs. Down

-Sun Hoodies

-Dreaded Nalgene Bottles

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