Today on Art of the Cut we speak with two of the four editors of Avatar: The Way of Water. Joining us on the call are Stephen Rivkin, ACE and John Re-FUE-ah, ACE.

Rivkin won an ACE Eddie for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. He was also nominated for ACE Eddies for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. He was nominated for an Oscar, a BAFTA and an ACE Eddie for editing the first Avatar. Rivkin’s other credits include Fantastic Four, Ali, and My Cousin Vinny.

Refoua was also nominated for an Oscar, a BAFTA and an ACE Eddie for the first Avatar. His other credits include Transformers: The Last Knight, The Magnificent Seven, and Balls of Fury, plus TV including Law and Order, Ally McBeal, Dark Angel, Reno 911, and CSI: Miami.

One of those not on the call is David Brenner, ACE. David has been a previous guest on Art of the Cut for Zack Snyder’s Justice League and Batman versus Superman. He won an Oscar for Born on the Fourth of July. His other credits include Transformers: Age of Extinction, Man of Steel, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, Independence Day and The Patriot. Sadly for the entire editing community, David died earlier this year, during production of Avatar 2: Way of Water.

The other editor not on the call is director James Cameron, ACE. James won an Oscar and an ACE Eddie and was nominated for a BAFTA for editing Titanic. He was also given the ACE Golden Eddie for Filmmaker of the Year in 2000. And he was nominated for an Oscar, a BAFTA, and an ACE Eddie for the first Avatar.