This week, Alan and Lionel are joined by former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers to discuss the new world order...or should that be disorder? They share their views on the threat posed by the second Trump presidency and whether the world has reverted to “might is right”. John raises concerns over the future of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance—which consists of the UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the US. Could this mean the end of intelligence sharing with America? Plus, Alan and Lionel discuss the unexpected outcome of Ofcom’s cases against GB News.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

This week, Alan and Lionel are joined by former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers to discuss the new world order...or should that be disorder? They share their views on the threat posed by the second Trump presidency and whether the world has reverted to “might is right”. John raises concerns over the future of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance—which consists of the UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the US. Could this mean the end of intelligence sharing with America? Plus, Alan and Lionel discuss the unexpected outcome of Ofcom’s cases against GB News. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Alan and Lionel are joined by former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers to discuss the new world order...or should that be disorder? They share their views on the threat posed by the second Trump presidency and whether the world has reverted to “might is right”. John raises concerns over the future of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance—which consists of the UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the US. Could this mean the end of intelligence sharing with America? Plus, Alan and Lionel discuss the unexpected outcome of Ofcom’s cases against GB News. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

John Sawers: ‘The deep state is what keeps us stable’

Alan Rusbridger and Lionel Barber—two of the world’s greatest editors—dive into the hugely important world of media. What—and who—drives it? What do they get right... And what do they get wrong? Lionel, former editor of the&nbsp;Financial Times, and Alan, editor of&nbsp;Prospect&nbsp;and former editor of the&nbsp;Guardian,&nbsp;will bring you revealing, high profile interviews and in-depth discussion. Media Confidential is produced by Prospect Magazine. Subscribe to Prospect and enjoy our rigorously fact-checked, truly independent analysis and perspectives. No commitment—you can cancel at any time.&nbsp;Currently you can SAVE 10% on a subscription:&nbsp;<a href="https://subscription.prospectmagazine.co.uk/MAR25OFF/prospect-magazine/MAR25g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://subscription.prospectmagazine.co.uk/MAR25OFF/prospect-magazine/MAR25g</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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Alan Rusbridger and Lionel Barber—two of the world’s greatest editors—dive into the hugely important world of media. What—and who—drives it? What do they get right... And what do they get wrong? Lionel, former editor of the Financial Times, and Alan, editor of Prospect and former editor of the Guardian, will bring you revealing, high profile interviews and in-depth discussion. Media Confidential is produced by Prospect Magazine. Subscribe to Prospect and enjoy our rigorously fact-checked, truly independent analysis and perspectives. No commitment—you can cancel at any time. Currently you can SAVE 10% on a subscription: https://subscription.prospectmagazine.co.uk/MAR25OFF/prospect-magazine/MAR25g Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Alan Rusbridger and Lionel Barber—two of the world’s greatest editors—dive into the hugely important world of media. What—and who—drives it? What do they get right... And what do they get wrong? Lionel, former editor of the&nbsp;Financial Times, and Alan, editor of&nbsp;Prospect&nbsp;and former editor of the&nbsp;Guardian,&nbsp;will bring you revealing, high profile interviews and in-depth discussion. Media Confidential is produced by Prospect Magazine. Subscribe to Prospect and enjoy our rigorously fact-checked, truly independent analysis and perspectives. No commitment—you can cancel at any time.&nbsp;Currently you can SAVE 10% on a subscription:&nbsp;<a href="https://subscription.prospectmagazine.co.uk/MAR25OFF/prospect-magazine/MAR25g" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://subscription.prospectmagazine.co.uk/MAR25OFF/prospect-magazine/MAR25g</a> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

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