Matt Serra and Jim Norton are joined by a pair of fighters from this Saturday’s UFC 309 card in bantamweight Jonathan Martinez and lightweight Jim Miller.

Looking to get back in the win column after snapping a six-fight streak in a loss to José Aldo, Jonathan Martinez discusses what he learned from fighting the “King of Rio” in his backyard. Martinez previews his upcoming fight against Marcus McGhee before explaining how Vampire Diaries serves as his guilty pleasure in between grueling training sessions.

Before Jim Miller joins, Jim and Matt make some of their UFC 309 fight picks. When Miller hops on, the 41-year-old veteran starts things off by explaining what it’s like raising pigs on his two acres.

As the conversation shifts back to MMA, Miller goes into detail about how he just can’t shake that “addicting feeling” of making the walk to the cage as he gears up for his UFC record 45th fight with the promotion on this Saturday’s prelims.