Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Michael Shermer (science writer) about his new book “Giving the Devil His Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist”. Michael discusses how he went from being a born again christian to becoming a famous skeptic. Michael discusses how liberals seem to be repeating the mistakes that conservatives made in the past. In the 1960s it was the left that fought for free speech and now they are the ones supporting cancel culture. Michael also makes clear that you can learn a lot from people you disagree with. Michael discusses why he devoted a whole chapter to why he disagrees with Jordan Peterson on some key points. He reveals how he first heard of Jordan Peterson and what his initial thoughts of him were. 

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