The Turkish operation/invasion this week is the latest betrayal in a long history of betrayals of the Kurdish people. It's no wonder that they have a saying - "We have no fiends but the mountains".

We are delighted to be rejoined in the tortoise shack by former British Army soldier, former fighter with the YPG against ISIS and International Relations student, Joshua Molloy.

We are very grateful to Josh for his insights. This is well worth a listen.

Join us: patreon.com/tortoiseshack

Artwork via the amazing @Ciaraioch