In this episode, Jeffrey Davis from the Functionally Dysfunctional Show and I talk about podcasting, God, religion, the bible, the Law of Attraction, and his experience of being an evangelist. This was a solid episode with an awesome flowing conversation. I hope you enjoy it.
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00:00:13Welcome back to another episode of the 101 podcast. This is the maiden voyage of the new setup. So hopefully it sounds crispy in your ears. And today. I am joined by what you want to call. You want me to call you by your name, or you want me to call you? Cuz I usually have people.
00:01:02Short-haired assholes, I don't care. Whatever my name. So, Jeffrey Davis, from the functionally dysfunctional. Show. What's up, man? What's going on, brother? We've been talking for a little bit and then we linked up on. I was listening to the was the one that you did with the
00:01:22she's not a psychologist, you something else. Was there a purpose? Michael therapist. And my first question to her was what what is the difference between a psychotherapist?
00:01:34Yeah, and I understand that when I saw you were going down, some some stuff and I was like man, let me, let me, let me link up with this guy. So before we get started, share your socials, Instagram, YouTube, whatever it is, you have so people can find your work and I'll wait till the end when they like the two people that are listening to the show. I like pie your mom and your wife or something isn't the show and then they just tune out. So they don't hear it. You know, so just do it front. That's why I can't write. Make them, make them. Hang on. No man. You can catch me everywhere at, Hey, Jeffrey, Davis personally. That's twitch, Twitter, Facebook, all that shit.
00:02:19And then my other, my, my my podcast, the funk, he's functional show. You can catch on Twitter at Funk jazz funk Show Instagram at Foxy's, functional show or email monkeys. Functional showed, you know that calm. The reason I like that name is because it's like the 101 podcast, you know, it's the one I want and I can say that shit cuz I'm Brown so it's not racist if I say it but it'd be pretty fucking races of somebody else said that. So all see that's a great conversation right there by itself. Would it be? Would it be right? Can't pull. I can't pull my black card, even though Puerto Ricans. Do you have some black in them somewhere in the mix in there, but I can't quite pull that but you know, the full on black. I'm Brown as fuck. So what got you into podcast knew? It was it was it the old Joe Rogan or what? No, man. That's a long story. I did it because I felt like there we got time.
00:03:18Right. Shitt. I don't tell a short story. That's the problem. I have to like I'm always catching myself in and rain in myself in where I'm going on my God. I'm getting too long with it. But long, long story like multiple episode long Story Once Upon a Time. I am 38. Now. I was a professional Minister and evangelist and yellow. Yeah, dude, travel the country speaking and my beliefs are nowhere in the neighborhood of that realm now and Bloated never thought that. Oh no one does but but people that hear me talk now, that knew me back then. Her like, what the heck happened to you. I'm like,
00:04:05That's another conversation. Well, that's what they think right? And for those actually want to have a reasonable conversation about it. Then then we have a good time. But most people just want to make their own assumptions and move on. But but yeah, so I have a lot of experience speaking and I'm the kind of person you are.
00:04:26I think about shit and ask a lot of questions and and and I see a lot of things on answered. I'm driven by the by the big questions of
00:04:38Who we are? Why are we here? Where we come from? How we get here? What's the point? And I just asked the shit that everyone else asks in their head, if they're honest with themselves, but no one talks about and I was like, man, don't talk about this shit and I want to talk about this shit and I want to do it where other folks can be a part of it if they want to be, was that be listening or or anything. So we just, we talked about real schitt's enough to talk about on my podcast, you know, we talk about movies and TV shows and shit like that, but more times than not were talking about
00:05:13Real shit. In the why not right now. We have Chit Chat all day everyday. Why not talk about real shit is it's like that one saying, did a conversation really happen. If it wasn't on a podcast, the tree really fall in the woods, if there was nobody around to hear it right that the bear shit in the woods and there's nobody else around to hear it. When I was in college. I had us roommate. That was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and he
00:05:45We were meeting with a roommate were talking about. You missing the sound yours is just waves. You sound waves. Huge waves, hit your ears and is similarly, we were talking to him and he really now, you know, color doesn't exist until you see it. It's just wavelength of light and until you the rising cones in your, in your eyeballs. And they, they they interpret those spectres of light as certain colors. Like the fuck ton of colors behind me, which is just where I roll. But we long story short. We had that mother fucker trying to catch the lack of color behind him. We're like, if you look behind you fast enough, you can catch and that motherfukers, you know, he's like try and I'm like, yeah, like I said, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I have had Lawrence Corona on the show and
00:06:37Back at you talk about vision and being you know something back then Vision was thought of as something. I mean, let me. I'm trying to look through the emails now do it. So right here, Visionary seeing so, long trying is a Visionary artist. And what they do is they focus on Vision. They paint what they see in this realm and he's written a bunch of books and he does Alchemy in. And I had them on My Chauffeur is a fur to talk about narcissism and Converse store, email about this Visionary. Seeing first about seeing particularly Vision, seeing is active, rather than passive that seeing was always understood as the active projection of sight from early Greek culture. And then he's got a particles, some fucking Greek guy Play-Doh Optics into the Middle Ages, only during the Renaissance and scientific.
00:07:37Leonardo and Newton. Did we come to regard seeing as the passive reception of light and Visionary State? We try to open or I to the Divine eye and it's more. It's the more active way of creative sing so back. Then we understood seeing as an active projection of sight versus. It's always there. And then we interpret whatever comes in, which is really interesting. And we only see point 0 0, 2 5 0 0, 2, 5 of the light spectrum that loan. We only hear certain amount of the frequency. That's why I tell people,
00:08:18Who know, we don't see infrared. We don't see you. No, ultraviolet light. We don't see all these different types of wavelengths and lights. So who's to say that there's not like a world going on in front of us. Right now. We can't see. Oh man. I I I agree totally dude, so I can't just skip over the fact that you were like this. This minister is this changes the entire Dynamic of the podcast, bro. I got to dig deeper into that. What what click bro, like what happened that it you were just like fuck. This is not it cuz usually when it's like that you're deep in the shit like deep and I grew up Pentecostal Christian. So gospel church. It's deep shit. You know what I mean? Like it and I can. I play guitar for 5 years. I was in the worship. Grabbed it. I did it all until I started realizing I hate.
00:09:12This is bullshit. You know what? I mean? I opened up my eyes and when I really started seeing and reading other literature and other scriptures, that's when I was like, okay, I've been bamboozled, you know, okay, so
00:09:30The thing, the thing about it is, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that.
00:09:39It's bullshit, right? So well, lay back up. I guess I would ask someone that. Makes that that statement the question. What about it? Do you think is bullshit? Because that could be far-reaching. So, for me, as I grew up in the church wasn't necessarily that Super Active till my teenage years. Has some people that took an interest in me and in the ministry they invested in me. Yo, groom me for professional Ministry. I travel the country, preaching ended up starting at church so on and so forth and army.
00:10:19You're a dub.
00:10:21And yes, I say no, but but it in in, in all of that, and one of my things is, I'm, I'm big on history, on big on Origin stories. I'm big on. I don't want to just read an English translation of you Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. And I'm like, okay. Well, I've always been back to your original question about why I started my podcast is, is I've always been that person to ask those questions. Those that that everyone seems to stop just short up for some reason and I go. Okay. Well, how did we end up with out of the Bible? End up the way, the Bible is, how why do we only include the writings of these people? Well, what's the other stories that were circulating in the time of someone and still want to still want? And when you start reading things like that, you start to go, huh?
00:11:12As a whole you start to notice like a lot of interesting motherfukers it motherfukers yet and they're telling us different versions of the same stories, which makes you ask questions about the infallibility of scripture and it makes you asking all these questions. And in the church. Yeah, I grew up in the end of the Southern Baptist Church. I went through. I was in very strict, Baptist churches, in Progressive Baptist Churches. I was in the Pentecostal church for a bit, spend some time with a charismatic church. I've got around a bit right. Lots of friends that were in Weston traditions and so on and so forth. So not and just don't want pigeon hole, right? And
00:11:56Do all those asking the questions?
00:12:00It is kind of like pulling at the thread, the loose thread on a sweater, right? If if you pull on it, I completely promise it will unravel for you. Unless, and this is what many, many, many out here, is yours coming to pull back the curtain on professional Ministry, a little bit. Cuz this is is true across the board. Most professional ministers have come to that point where they went old. Fuck.
00:12:27When they pull on that thread enough to where they realized, if they kept pulling, it was all going to unravel and the vast majority of them.
00:12:39Made the decision it with the face with the same problem. The same same quandary, that I was to go. Now. What do I keep pulling or do I just stop and pretend, like, it never happened? And this is my livelihood at this point and I'm not going to, I'm not going to pull any more and most of them make that choice and I almost did almost went. You know what I've invested so much in this, I cannot, but I'm the kind of person that I can't.
00:13:12I can't do that. I just, I can't stop when I'm on.
00:13:20An interesting Journey been where I've been and and I'm not going down the road. I'm going down it. So for me, I just for better or worse, when I got to see where this leads, and what it led to for me was the unraveling of
00:13:37Christianity specifically to begin with and then organized religion as a whole after that. And I went through a thankfully, very brief time where for about a year where I was, as fervent income convinced trying to convince people that
00:14:00Christianity was bullshit as I had been in trying to create to miss them of the existence of a DD or God and
00:14:10I think they realize, well, that was about as as much Folly is.
00:14:16As the other side, right? As as as the religious side, so I settled in this place where I went. You know, what, there's no evidence to.
00:14:27Prove or disprove the existence or non-existence of a God or Gods? So for me, I'm not going to throw my lot in with
00:14:38you know, some kind of faith in some kind of DD until that deity is proven to exist and
00:14:46Is that Deedee your aura quartz prove that we are totally alone. There's no higher power, you know, and, and I'm completely over so that that, that freed me up to go. You know what? Let me just consider all perspectives, all possibilities of what could be, and whatever ends up being proven to actually be is fine with me. I just want to know, empirically, what is if there is anything greater than ice higher than us. You know, I don't give a shit if it's the judeo-christian notion of God. I don't give a shit. If it's, you know, the the Hindu Pantheon. The Greek pantheon, it was something that we don't have any frame of reference for at all. I don't care what it is. As long as it's empirically proven that it does exist. If anything does exist until then, because I told her what you did write, the religion only exist because in my opinion because of unanswerable questions.
00:15:45Okay in ancient history. As far as we know, we can talk about. Pretend you possible past Advanced civilizations on planet. Earth is so what? So what I do all day about that. I know you can't do your but you know, you look at it and go if you buy the line.
00:16:03That were fad of what history is and it may or may not be the truth.
00:16:08No evidence either way in my opinion. But if you buy the line that we were super primitive in Antiquity, well, okay, let's let's by the line that people were just stupid motherfukers in Antiquity and we go. Okay. Well, Joe Farmer goes, man, my crops haven't fucking grown will hasn't rained in a while while I wonder, I wonder. Why not. Well, maybe I fucking pissed off that thing in the sky writing for some reason. Every culture on every corner of the globe, in ancient history, came to the realization, or the assumption, that that thing requires, blood sacrifice, how that happened. But you have all these unanswerable questions and he's quandaries that people go. I don't know, maybe it was this and boom. There is Faith. There's religion and we sacrifice John down the road because John is a bad motherfuker and he needs to die. So we're going to just sacrifice him and we go. Oh,
00:17:08Well, what happens? OSHA training for a while, let's kill someone and then it'll rain exactly confirmation biased in cognitive dissonance all day, too. So anyway, that was like these soup. I told you I'll do it. So don't don't tell us your story. That's a long-ass version of explaining how religion in a multi-year process of of how that had it wasn't like. I woke up one day and went off this shit. It was like a multi-year was terrible time. It was a time of great existential angst for me to go cuz here, I've invested my life in this. This belief system in this profession, around this belief, system is dogma and
00:17:57Now it's just I keep pulling at the thread and just keeps falling apart for me. And it's terrible. Terrible feeling cuz you mean everything about your life at that point. You might relate to that depending on how deep into it. You got, you go. Will it it? It shapes your worldview. It shapes. The is the lens through which you view things, and when that's gone. That's a horrible feeling until it becomes a great feeling when you go in a second. If I don't hold anything is sacred. That means everything is possible. And for me, that's a very freeing thought. Once I got to that place, right? For a lot of people that is it's paralyzing and it was me for a while. That's what?
00:18:37Existential angst is but once you get beyond that, if you allow yourself to to move beyond that and press through that thing and stay within your stay self-aware and continue processing and don't just give into the paralyzing overwhelmingness of it. Then it becomes very freeing for me, at least an in potentially for other people. Just depends on the person. Yeah, that's a lot to unpack. That's heavy man. So I can relate because
00:19:14Even with just so I've done. Probably collectively with all the podcasts. I've done probably over a hundred episodes. Very nice. So,
00:19:25Once.
00:19:27That indoctrination sets in, right? And I can't even imagine.
00:19:33I can really a little bit because I was in that realm of things as far as the church goes, but I can't imagine putting my livelihood on that and then going down this rabbit hole and be like, wow, this is this might be bullshittin, then lying to yourself.
00:19:51To hold back, right? Cuz I can't even now that you're saying that. I can't imagine how many ministers are preachers. Are going through the same.
00:20:02Almost like an existential crisis, where that's crazy, dude, that is crazy. Because at the end of the day, it's all a narrative fallacy. At the end of the day. It is what it is. Now.
00:20:19There is no proving or disproving.
00:20:23This this God figure whoever it is, at the end of the day. I feel it's
00:20:29an internal battle and
00:20:33I've been looking more and more into the aspect of
00:20:38What these philosophers called, the demons aren't where they, where they do the mass hypnotized by demons. I mean, the things that they use thoughts real, Play-Doh thought, that the da thought world was another dimension of Plato's theory of forms where we have the perfect image of a horse, but in the real world,
00:21:00There is fucked up versions of horses, right? With a good rest of the form of the chair. Exactly. So so when it comes to these thoughts because and forever was either Alan, Watts are forgot who it was. It was like an action doesn't happen without with a lot of thought and the actions that are happening in the future happened because of things that happened in the past. So you think I've been listening to a lot of turns but cannot talk about time travel in time itself. And how time is an illusion. And obviously, there's only the Eternal. Now there is no future. There is no past. It's only now and but they're the way they talk about is like everything is being pushed to One Moment In Time all together like this Collective klusterfuk of just time and moment just happening on it, which is what like the Multiverse theory is and all that stuff that everything has happened.
00:22:00At once, right? It's right there, that's connected. And we only in time is just way we experience BC system. This the guy that invented that it was, he was, he was a Jesuit monk. That's when we wasn't, look this up Jojo. Yeah, Joseph Gallagher and time as as people with that's just something that we measure it's just it's just another unit of measurement but back to the topic of proving or disproving up. There is a God or not. I don't believe that there is I believe
00:22:35I consider myself a gnostic PS. I believe there is some higher power. There is I refer to him as a programmer like in The Matrix the program for the architect, that's in the room and he's creating reality. Because in the reason I feel we live in some sort of simulation is because
00:22:54Law of Attraction. And what you said about how you not trying to look and see if the colors of change, you know, the observer effect is 100 fucking percent real, and people don't know about the double slit experiment. If you can figure out why atoms react differently, when you're observing them versus, when you're not, you will win a Nobel, Peace Prize. I was when you mention that was fixing to bring up the folks, split experiment, you know, we have not brought up this episode at all. We just happen to be speaking. The same fucking language ride, right. You're ever this shit that I'm aware of. I'm ready for the shitz. You're aware of. It is like serendipitous. They were having this conversation. What got me into Park Housing. Other than, obviously, Joe Rogan was that when I started looking into things, when I started reading,
00:23:47Scriptures in the nagamati library. When I start reading things the Dead Sea Scrolls, when I started looking into it. And then when I questioned and I asked somebody was in the church. I said, hey why what's up with the Old Testament, man? What's up with the why do the bogomils in the cathars things? That it's a work of a demon? You know, who's Yahweh? Who's out? What's going on, man? What's up? Like they said, ignore the Old Testament.
00:24:10What ya, ignore. We don't. We don't regard that. I said, wait a minute, but it's fundamental ignore. So, that's what really when I, when I, when they told me, I said, all right, I see what's going on here. I see what's going on. So the narrative is, when it fits, right, when it fits, it's okay. When you're reading the scripture, you know, how many people go to church, and don't understand the scripture that they're reading 99.999% of them. Cuz what what happens you as a, as, you know, as a preacher you go in and and you see it when they're reading old Revelations. This is what happened, right? Everybody. That's what happened. Hallelujah, know what I mean. I take this indoctrination and just what was happening right now. It's in the it's a business model. Yes. It's a, it's a, it's a brokered experience. Who are you? When I'm not saying you to tell me.
00:25:04That I'm able to achieve Divinity or not.
00:25:09Oh, well, this guy talks to God every other day. This other guy talks to him everyday this house. I got it's a brokered experience and you're ruled a heretic when you go against the grain, when you questioned and. Yeah, cuz we have to have a hierarchy, right? Or there's not going to be what Ward is rather shy. See the fear is that there will not be any order without a hierarchy, right? Like the beat the, the the b-bus, why the Ten Commandments were given to Moses. He needed to lead the people he needed some order, he needed that, right? Then again before too stupid to, to live in some Society where there is no heart. That's the problem because that's why they haven't told us that there is aliens. Because can you imagine the mass hysteria? What happened? If if you could you imagine the breakdown of society? If they told him God wasn't real or Hey, listen, where a brain.
00:26:09About jar. That's why I said. I think therefore I am that's the only thing he was fucking sure. Of, you know, like when Neil asked Morpheus what is real, he goes with what is real right? As if you know, the electrical impulses that your, you know what I mean? What is your, how do you define real? How do you last week that there's a third one Matrix directions to like, where the fuck is that happened, is coming out now resurrections. Yes, which is going to be pretty much Neil was cuz at the end of the last one, the third one, which does the best one was the first one. Obviously. Right? Whenever there's a just as, you know, your Star Wars fan, right? Yeah, when there's the first movies, always like the greatest. I don't know about Star Wars that we can get into that. But the Matrix is the first one was great. The second was okay. It's like aliens, aliens.
00:27:09When was the amazing? Yeah, and then obviously, they went off that. But the Matrix, the first down the third movie. It's very Gnostic to the the the feel of it. Right? And every character has a few Google their name. They have, you know, Trinity or the Holy Trinity Morpheus. I know, but the god of sleep, right? Morpheus the Nebuchadnezzar, the ship are all this shit, Neo the one and at the end of the third, movie. Spoiler alert. He pretty much dies. And then this way I was wondering how they're going to bring it back. Like, hey, how are we going to do this? Everybody's dead is like, I was having a dream. I've had these crazy dreams and it's like fucking boom, dude. So there's this theory, in various in a very small subject of, yo, Chris and unloved of of Christianity, and it's called, it's, it's people. I don't know that that, that, that that the sect were the has any kind of of name, but there's a inner light.
00:28:09Was that the weather? Is it the Temple of inner life? Oh, I don't know if there is a name. I'm not aware of it. But there is no Thursday, a theory, a theology or whatever concept that of this thing called V A Dimock dream and it is the theory that that obviously, Adam and Eve are not a physical man and woman. That is there a metaphor for Humanity? Because he's so, here's your, here's your Hebrew lesson of the day, right? In. Because that was one of my things is. I was I read and read. He didn't speak, but read Hebrew and Greek. And because I want them like, you know, I want to read the original language that the other text was in not, what is been translated into? Guess who came up with the King James version? Take a wild. Guess. I used to know it, but I forgotten go ahead in King James, dude.
00:29:09There was a big bro, like who the Council of nicaea with the whole canonical versus not going on at all. You know, is that the Ethiopian Bible has the Book of Enoch as a canonical book, right? Not the Western, the western United. I've had Joseph. There's three books. I've had Joseph Lumpkin. Dr. Joseph pumpkin in on my podcast and he has a PHD in in church history and all the Teletubbies eat shit and and he's written numerous numerous books on it and it's fucking crazy. But in your listening, you're a Christian. Don't start down the church history Rabbit Hole cuz you will not be one for long. I've had some emails come my way. And so so so here's your Hebrew lesson of the day, right? In Genesis when
00:30:06Adam is talked about, he's called Adam. He's called eating the humanity basically, right? And then, once you're once Eve, is, is taking is created. Adam is no longer be in English. The translation is so Adam, but in the Hebrew, it's each right? And so each is a male incomplete.
00:30:32If Dee Wright and Eve is Isha, and it's a female in Kuwait City. It's only once each any Shah come together, right? Where they become collectively referred to as high tide on McCarran and swnd the human soul. The trinity.
00:30:522 degree. Yeah, it's so it was showing that that that you
00:30:57He will I sense a potential out there. Anyway, you go on and the theory that was talking about was the Via didn't dream is there's this this theory that when that went went, went out of me felt when they ate of the apple, of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, which is massively misunderstood, but that's a different podcast when they did that, that they fell asleep and Humanity has been sleeping. Not unlike all of the humans in the power plants in The Matrix, right? If they're asleep and and you're like, yeah, bulshit. Will you find me a book in the Bible for all whatever that's worth. We talked about the canonization process of the Old and New Testament and so on and so forth and the different sects of Christianity that use different cannons and blah blah, but let's just simplify and find me a, a a writing, a book in any Canon of the Bible. That doesn't have a common Narrative of
00:31:59It is said in every single book with potentially the exclusion. I'm not for certain of of Leviticus, were just run it through all the laws. But wake up is, said, by every Prophet, by every Apostle, die. Every judge. Really? Yes. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up, Jesus wake up.
00:32:23It's okay. You know, I'm not saying I buy it. I'm saying it's an interesting perspective and thought and conversation that have what's what's the story? I'm sure, you know, where he is wrestling with the angel and he telling he's telling him may have to go before the sun comes out. What's the what's the? So that's the story of Jacob and I had somebody on the podcast we talkin about that about how it was almost forgot. What the fuck you said. This is forever ago. It was pretty much. You was you was, you know, it was like an a like a like a shadow type of the like a Carl Jung type of thing where he's just battling with his with his shadow temperatures, you know, the person is described. I will say I'm starting to hate. I haven't been a preacher since I was in my early twenties, I'm taking way fucking back, but I Stay
00:33:18This just stays in my Consciousness because I'm always looking, I'm always on the journey for what is whatever that might be. I want to know what is and so this ship stays in my Consciousness and that's what my favorite stories. And it was back when I was preaching towards the end of my preaching career, for lack of better term, and that really is the most appropriate term. That was one of my favorite stories that I would that I would use because there's a chance that you've lost the Jacobs or Jacob story. What the fuck are the chances that I'll bring that up when I was your first or one of them and because one of the things that there's, there's there's two stents in Hebrew called the, the future perfect tense. And I can't recall if we have one of those in English. I don't believe we have a future perfect and English. Anyway, we read the story as it's so Jacob wrestles. So it is assumed for the writing that this, this purse.
00:34:18Did Jacob wrestle with was God? Okay, and Jacob wrestled With God all night long and I got invited the wrestling. And one way you can read that is way back up a step. So, Jacob wrestles with God, and obviously, God could best him. God, could best him, anytime you wanted to, but chose not to because Jacob was still engaging in the wrestling. So he kept them in the fight basically, right? And they wrestle all night long, all night long. The the text says, and in the end at the end of the fight was, as the sun's coming up. The The Stranger this person's called The Stranger.
00:35:01Depending on what translation you're reading touches. Wrenches, injures. Whatever, does something to Jacob's hip. Well.
00:35:11That's so we we, we can read on right? Past that in the Hebrew, the that that sentence is what was done to Jacobs hip was done in the future, perfect tense in Hebrew, which means it changed the way that Jacob would walk forever future. Perfect. It's never going to be undone. So what I, what I took that ass in the circle hear here comes the the preacher really want to reading any sacred texts that is completely open to interpretation. You can kind of read it how you want with that meant to me at the time and what I think is interesting way to look at it was if you wrestle with God
00:35:54And I interpret that is asking the hard questions. Digging, deep figure that. Figure it out. Ask tough shit, right? If you wrestle with God, you better fucking be prepared.
00:36:05Because it will change you forever. If you go down that road in Hewitt, if you engage in that fight you will you will not walk the same forever you may or may not like the way you don't walk the same and in my case it led to religion unraveling for me. And yeah, that's just the way it is, and I don't
00:36:30Not like that happened in a lot of ways. I feel like it was a emancipation almost but that's fucking deep dude. You know what the guy talked about was cuz he was in a cave or something before he was meditating or something before. Then why you is the reason I had brought that up was because
00:37:00There there is. He's monks that go underground for weeks at a time days at a time. And the reason that they do that as they go underground to meditate because they say that DMT, wait, wait, wait for it. Wait for a dimethyl trip to me. They say that in the lungs, right? And William Hoff, which is this crazy freaking nature guy. He says, get high on your own Supply and the way he does that is through breathing exercises. And he says that I've had a friend of mine who has done it before where he's like had hallucinations from just I don't know if it's the lack of oxygen or what it is. But he's had these great from doing those breathing exercises. So these monks go underground.
00:37:51In the darkness, right? Because they say that you're able to produce more DMT in the darkness, for whatever reason and they do these breathing exercises in the Darkness 2 in to induce these Visionary states. Where are they?
00:38:10Again. Maybe have fights with entities that they perceive. That's why the the the entity kept telling him. He I have to go before the sun comes up. I have to go before the sun comes up. Hope it stays. I have to go because once the sun came up maybe snap out of that Visionary state. If you know what I mean, I could maybe it was this the shadow. I don't, I don't know it. It's it's this crazy thing that I've always thought about but
00:38:37That that's wild to me bro. Where it where it makes perfect sense. What you're saying where you know, what do they save you? If you mess with the bull you get the horns type thing. So but
00:38:52In your case. It wasn't a good. But why wouldn't let me rephrase that? I want to say it was not good outcome.
00:39:01And what you're saying is, if you look into God, right? Or the one, or the parent or
00:39:09The demiurge or whatever. It is to you the program or whatever.
00:39:14That you're going to be altered 100% in some way. And what would you call it? That? The future? Perfect. Yeah, the future perfect, kiss. It will change your imperfect tense. It it will change you forever. And it's not. The perfect part is, it's, it's, it's not going back there. Right? Like you can't just take. You can't be reinserted back into the Matrix. So it's like, either you take the red pill or the blue pill, what the fuck. You can take this when I wake back up and that Eternal Slumber, you know, within that Eternal Slumber or take this other one and it's like you're going to be with the big boys and that's when he wakes up in the fucking factories. Are you know what? I mean? That's why all dude. So I love that. I love that. That's awesome. But in your case
00:40:00When people are in religion, and when they're in in church, they want to further that relationship and nurture that relationship with God and your case. It wasn't that. So what did that kind of defeat, the whole purpose of God or do you feel that he's there to help show you the way not necessarily in the Christian religion, but in Life or, you know, what, it whatever religion it is, cuz that's kind of, you know, what is paradoxical thought? You're supposed to look for more of God. But then, in your case, it kind of pushed you away. Because it on traveled that fabric of everything you thought to be and it turned out not to be true and I think it stands a good chance to do that for anyone that digs and I think and in a lot of people are going to stop once they realize they're going to stop pulling on the thread, once they realize this weather is going to unravel. That's bullshit, dude. Well, I think it is but that's that, that gets down to the kind of person that you are. You are you the kind of person that is using Faith as a crutch.
00:41:01Which I think more times than not. It is. You know, where are Young, Thug's about religion. Organized religion is just a way of people's predict projection their projections of of their own problems and just fine. Like I said, finding a crutch and a place to to dump watch those those this doing that this just using as a crutch. Just to answer things. You what happened to my favorite, you know, Grandma repairing her spouse or child? That died. Where are they? Well, they're in heaven will make you feel good right into the wrong with that thing wrong with with feeling good.
00:41:41Well, let me add a little ask her to that, in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that. As long as you don't go around claiming that to be the absolute truth. Where is he at now? Do you believe something that that bit whatever you want to believe in your head because it makes you feel good. Cuz it answers questions are unanswerable and that causes you anxiety, or stress, whatever, and you want to choose to believe something because it makes you feel better. Awesome, great fine, but the second you say, well, but what I believe is the truth and you offer right in it. And the burden of proof is on the person that makes the claim, right? So if you say ex is your, ex is true, or the burden of proof is on you to to
00:42:28To provide evidence for that privalia and if you're unwilling, or unable to do. So then Hitchens, razor says that that which can be assertive without evidence can be dismissed without evidence that different from Occam's razor off top my head, like the, the, the the, the more
00:42:49The choice that would make the most sense.
00:42:52Yeah, you're basically saying.
00:42:57The simplest answer is normally normally, I'd hate to see a berry pie saw a fucking beer, right? So yeah. Yeah, that's different than that says. If you say, you know, he wanted, you know where I was. If I say once, you know that I can fly and you can hold your mother fucker.
00:43:17Columbus roof and jump off and let's see. And I feel well, I don't have to cuz I told you that I could I have made in it and I have asserted something that I'm unwilling to prove and because I'm a willing to prove it you, it is folly for you to engage in an argument or whether or not I can fly because I've been unwilling to prove my claim so that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed. And I would argue should be dismissed without evidence. You don't need to provide evidence of why I can't fly. If I wasn't willing to prove that I can but there's like this delusional State when it comes to to religion than anything any beliefs like that right were work. Again, these intrusive thoughts, these demons that get within people and they possess some right is, what is happening World War Racine right now? Like the the
00:44:17We are.
00:44:19All act, like I said, earlier, our actions all come from thoughts, right? And then, there wouldn't be any action without thought of either. One of your thoughts or one of my thoughts and we project those onto others, which is what happens with we talked about hierarchy earlier, when the higher-ups, which we're seeing it happen to history. Right now on the higher-ups come up with some sort of idea. They projected onto the masses. And that's when you get this, massive stereo, massive noses.
00:44:48To control people through that, but it starts with the headright starts up top. And then it works it. They indoctrinate that had figure and then it works his fucking way down and those people push those ideologies and whatever it is. And dude, Stalin or Hitler, fucking Fidel Castro, all these head figures, you know, Kim Jong while he's had two figures, all starts with an idea. So, how is that significant for you? Why when you cuz I sent that or not, since I gather that, that's something that's important to your worldview, that everything starts with a, with a thought. How someone play with Devil's Advocate number 1. How is that important to your daily life? And secondly, if you found out that that in fact is not the case. How would that affect you?
00:45:46It would affect me because at the end of the day, I feel that.
00:45:53And I don't want to say what was happening right now, cuz I'm I'm just tired of talking about it, but the way it's funny you don't want to talk about talking. Sure.
00:46:04At the end of the day, I've always said that we are thoughts fighting with one another and let's go back to the simulation. Hypothesis. Not Theory, a theory can be proven proven scientifically. A hypothesis has not been proven scientifically for those fucking conspiracy theorist a shit. When you know, you're part of a game, right? That's why these Elites, they are the way they are because they know this is a game. So when, you know, and you acknowledging that you're in some sort of game,
00:46:39It's okay. You know, you're okay, after about, when you're using Windows 10, you can't use a Windows 2000 program, right? Because it's not programmed in Windows 10 to be able to do that. So, there's certain things in this realm that we can't do now.
00:46:56When I say that we are thoughts in this whole idea of thoughts is because some people and they say you die by the sword or whatever. They don't understand. They can't grasp that concept. They can't break out of that Matrix to be able to think for themselves because they are being influenced by others and their thoughts and their words and their actions, right? So,
00:47:19Not until the mass.
00:47:24Of people, the population, whoever it is has an Awakening and says, hey, wait a minute. This is bulshit simulacra and simulation. We are giving power to these empty symbols rather, it be a thought or whatever else a symbol and it has power over us. That's why it's so important to me because if we as a society came together and said, hey, this is all bulshit.
00:47:51What gives money do the power that it does, what the government who is the government, owal? Right, we're all, we all come together as a collective Consciousness and agree upon this head. Figure of the so-called free world and he is the president, he is dead. Figure will says, fucking who writes says the system? What system the system is flawed. But as long as there, are the sheeple, in the people who don't understand that they're having these thoughts projected onto them and they're beaten. They didn't know, they were being manipulated, right? That's why I say defund. The media. Don't be from the police be from the fucking media to because it's called mimetic occultism in the medical tourism back to Plato. The Republic mimetic occultism is propaganda. Used to talk to people soul on a deeper level.
00:48:45No, no, so I'm going to relate to the Republic now. The reason I bring that up is because What did Plato want to do in the Republic? He wanted to take away the Arts. He wanted to take away certain sounds and in certain note, why? Because you understood that the Arts, talk to people on a deeper level. That's why they're prohibiting us from doing the things that we want to do from going to the movies from doing all the shit. You will stay inside and you will listen and you will do as your fucking told right. Why? Because people will still do it time and time again and not until they wake up from this eternal Slumber. Will they know? That's why the guy in The Matrix, you can eat in the state. He goes. I know this shit is fake, but I'd rather have this because it tastes good, but he knows he he knows he know that he's in the simulation yet. There's nothing he can do about it. He said, hey, I don't want to remember shit when I wake up on the other side, when he snatches them out because I don't know shit. When I wake up on the other side, just wipe me. I want to be super fucking rich.
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