Judith A. Curry is a climatologist, entrepreneur, and former academic who has broken with much of the political orthodoxy about climate change. In this episode, Robert talks with Curry, the president of Climate Forecast Applications Network, about why she left academia, why she believes climate science “has become a political party with totalitarian tendencies,” the limits of models, the role of heretics in society, and why nuclear energy and adaptation to a changing climate are the best paths forward.