In this follow-up conversation, Lauren Heithaus and Delphine Chui dive deeper into what it means to live out spiritual motherhood in the real world—where life is busy, emotions are messy, and rest feels out of reach.

Together they explore the shadow side of womanhood - burnout, comparison, invisibility - and how spiritual motherhood can hold space for it all. They reflect on the tension between doing and being, and the often-overlooked grace of receiving care ourselves.

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