Kate and Kathleen - A podcast about humans and horses

Kate & Kathleen - Episode 21. Rules...? In this epsiode we talk about the few 'rules' that we have (for now) when it comes to being with horses. These are things that for now we don't negotiate or compromise on - we try to uphold them. We discuss what has brought us to this decision and how we keep sense checking them. Who knows, the next time we talk we may have found good enough reasons not to hold on to these as rules anymore, but for now they make enough sense that we stick with them. If you would like to find out more about us, we both teach in person, on-line and have active subscriber memberships Kathleen - www.ethosequoine.com

Kate - www.softandsound.org

This week we talk about the ethical dilemmas we 'should' all face as horse owners. - regarding what we want our horses to do for us. It is a truth (which can be hard to face) that our horses are in our lives because we made choices for them. And then continue to decide many things about how they live and who they live with. There should be an ongoing dialgue for any horse steward as to what I ask of my horse and very importantly 'how' I ask. Do I know what my principles are in order that my actions can reflect that? In her usual straightforward manner, Kathleen suggests one way to consider this is simply "How selfish am I prepared to be?' We hope you enjoy our chat, if you would like to know more about us you can find us here

Kathleen

www.ethosequine.com

Kate

www.softandsound.org

Kate and Kathleen. Episode 19; living with horses with health conditions, Part 2.

In this epsiode we talk about our personal experiences of diagnosing and supporting horses with chronic health conditions. This includes Kathleens horses with PSSM and hormonal issues, and Kate's with complex phsyical issues. We discuss our own ethical paradigms for what we we will continue to ask of a horse, and when we make a decision to retire them. Not an easy topic for any of us to consider, but an essential one. If you would like to find out more about us you can track us down here Katheen - www.ethosequine.org

Kate - www.softandsound.org

Or you can find us on Fb ar Kathleen Beckham and Kate Sandel

In this episode Kate and Kathleen talk to a very interesting question from a listener - Is my horse just quiet or is she shut down? As ever, the conversation goes where it goes, with some rambling side roads and interesting diversions. If you have a question for us, please do get in touch. You can find us here Kathleen - www.ethoseqiune.org

Kate - www.softandsound.org

In this episode we begin to answer a listeners question, one which i am sure is familiar to many of us - my horses has a long term health condition, how do I manage that? This is part 1, where we discuss our experiences of discovering and then managing significant health challlenges in our horses. How can we balance optimim with realism, hope with pragmatism. We will return to this very soon as it is a huge subject. You can find `Kathleen here www.ethosequine.com Kate here

www.softandsound.org

In this episode we talk about the arrival of our respective new horses- Sunshine and Rural. We discuss their integration, how they landed and what we have learned about them in the few weeks they have been with us. Hopefully this episode will be interesting to you even if you have had your horse in your life for a longer time. It's always interesting to view them afresh! You can find us on

Kathleen - www.ethosequine.org

Kate - www.softandsound.org

March 2025

This week with Kathleen and Kate is a very special guest- Jane Pike! She of Confident Rider fame, and a passionate advocate for embodied practices for humans who share their lives with horses. Well all humans everywhere really. We were asked a question by a listener about rider fitness - how 'fit' do we need to be to ride a horse, and how do the other tasks we do in relation to horse care (wheelbarrows and buckets) contribute or not to our fitrness to ride? Jane brings her own compassionate and innovative take ob this, considering movement more from the perspective of the nervous system and how this impacts our relationship with our bodies and therefore with the bodies of our horses. If you would like to find out more about Jane you can find her on:

https://confidentrider.online

Kathleen on

https://ethosequine.com

kate on

https://softandsound.org

In this episode Kate and Kathleen talk about the challenge that horsepeople can face when they see the gurus or masters working at the most subtle or 'black belt' level of horsemanship, without always being explicit abou the years of practical interactions with horses which have got them to this stage.

We hope this episode helps you feel better about 'where you are now' and recognise that being a 'white belt' is something to be very proud of. You can find us at

Kathleen - www.ethosequine.org

Kate - www.softandsound.org

Well, this is some epsiode! Kathleen and Kate chat to Lee Mclean of Keystone Equine about a life with horses, and specifically how she cares for herself, her family and her community.

Lee has been working in the online/social media space for quite a while, and she has learned some things about self-care and boundaries in this new world over the years . She now has a huge following and has had to take positive action to keep that healthy and safe for all. Lee is a prolific and amazing writer, and slowly and deliberately develops a small herd of ponies and horses, according to high quality traditions of horsemanship We loved chatting with her and you can find her on Fb under Keystone Equine. Kathleen can be found at www.ethosequine.org

Kate at www.softandsound.org

In this episode Kate and Kathkeen talk about something which is on both their minds at the moment - buying a new horse. They have both aquired many horses between them over the years and along the way have honed some of the 'Must haves' and 'Must not haves'. This is a fund discussion but also a very serious one! If you find yourself in the position of buying a new horse, maybe this episode will be of interest to you. If you're not purchashing right now, you might find it interesting anyway! Find us here Kathleen - www.ethosequine.com Kate - www.softandsound.org