In this lively episode of Keep Hustling, host Aaron Gordon chats with Amy Hager, founder of the Joyful Business Revolution. Amy Hager shares her unique journey from childhood go-kart racer in Iowa to radio DJ and now entrepreneur, highlighting the hustler's spirit that shaped her career. The conversation dives deep into redefining "hustle", focusing on finding joy, building community, and personal alignment in life and business. Both Aaron Gordon and Amy Hager offer practical tips for overcoming burnout, setting meaningful goals, and celebrating wins, big or small. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking joy and fulfillment, whether you're an entrepreneur or working within an organization. Plus, Amy Hager closes with her favorite quote: "A rising tide lifts all boats," emphasizing the power of collective success.

Get To Know Amy Hager Amy Hager, CAE, IOM, is an Organic Marketing and Messaging Mentor who helps mission-driven entrepreneurs, associations, chambers, coaches, and consultants turn purpose into profit. With a rare ability to connect high-level strategy with practical, revenue-generating implementation, Amy guides organizations away from scattered "busy work" and toward focused, community-centered engagement that delivers measurable impact.

A passionate storyteller, speaker, and word smith, Amy has been crafting effective marketing and sales strategies for businesses and nonprofits across the country since 2005. Her expertise spans hospitality and tourism, membership organizations, technology, construction, and professional services. Whether working with small lodging properties, retail owners, community publications, or state and national associations, she excels at building alliances, deepening member engagement, and driving sustainable growth.

Certified as a Certified Association Executive (CAE) and recognized by the U.S. Chamber Foundation's Institute for Organizational Management (IOM), Amy brings deep industry insight from her years as a member, volunteer, and staff leader in associations and chambers. She currently leads sales strategy, partnerships, and community for Joyful Business Revolution™, infusing every engagement with clarity, relationship, and results.

When she's not speaking at conferences, coaching clients, or developing powerful strategies, you'll find Amy exploring the world through travel, wine, cider, and food—or creating new recipes in the kitchen surrounded by family and friends.

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3 Key Listener Takeaways 1. Redefine Hustle with Joy: Amy Hager and Aaron Gordon challenge the negative connotations of "hustle culture" by emphasizing that true hustle isn't about burnout or relentless busyness, but about persistent, passionate pursuit of meaningful goals. Their discussion reframes hustling as aligning business and career choices with personal joy and resilience, rather than simply grinding for the sake of it.

2. Celebrate Progress, Not Just Numbers: Both speakers stress the importance of celebrating all wins, not just the quantifiable or monetary ones. Whether it's helping a single client, experimenting with new routines, or surviving a tough day, recognizing and rewarding small victories builds momentum, positivity, and a mindset that sustains long-term growth.

3. Choose Your Community and Environment: The episode highlights the value of surrounding yourself with a supportive, uplifting community—both as an entrepreneur and as an employee. Amy Hager encourages listeners to build networks that inspire forward-thinking and growth, advocating for self-awareness and proactive decision-making in crafting an environment that nurtures both professional success and personal fulfillment.

Show Overview

00:00 Gratitude for Military Families

05:27 Teen Center Fundraiser Challenge

08:47 Never Quit, Keep Hustling

11:47 Mentorship, Joy, and Inspiration

14:51 Find Joy, Define Goals, Celebrate

18:10 Choose Joy, Question Routine

22:04 Celebrate Strengths, Shift Mindset

23:41 Choose Joy, Own Your Choices

26:51 Stay Curious, Hungry, Hustling

In this episode, host Aaron Gordon sits down with franchise advisor Adam Goldman to demystify the world of franchising. Adam shares his journey from owning and scaling a cleaning franchise to becoming a franchise coach who helps others find their perfect business match. They break down common myths: like the belief that franchises are limited to fast food or that you need to be a multimillionaire to get started and highlight the surprising variety of franchise opportunities in unexpected industries. The conversation explores how franchising can provide structure, support, and a proven pathway to entrepreneurship for those who don't want to build a business from scratch. The episode wraps up with motivational insights and the powerful reminder that there's no one-size-fits-all definition of hustle, franchising might just be yours.

Get To Know Adam Goldman Adam Goldman is a leading franchise consultant, serial entrepreneur, investor, franchisee, and Master Franchisor with more than 20 years of experience building and scaling successful businesses across two continents.

As the founder of FranchiseCoach.net, Adam guides corporate executives and high-achieving professionals out of traditional employment and into fulfilling franchise ownership while keeping their day jobs. Over the past nine years, he has helped hundreds of people discover the right franchise through a personalized matching process focused on their values, skills, lifestyle goals, and territory availability. Adam's expertise comes from real-world success. He has founded three companies, including an IT firm in Poland and a real estate investment company in Texas. Most recently, he scaled the Vanguard Cleaning Systems area developer territory in Houston into a multi-million-dollar business with over 30 franchisees and 300 customers before a successful exit. A best-selling author, Adam wrote "The Franchisee Lifestyle", a practical guide that shows how franchising can serve as a powerful exit strategy from Corporate America while supporting an integrated life of vision, relationships, health, and business.

A devoted husband and father of three, Adam lives in Houston, Texas, and continues to help professionals achieve financial freedom and personal fulfillment through smart franchise ownership.

Connect with Adam on Instagram at @franchisecoach_adam or visit FranchiseCoach.net.

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1. Find Your Entrepreneurial Fit Adam Goldman debunks the myth that entrepreneurship is only about inventing something new. Instead, he highlights franchising as a powerful and often-overlooked pathway for those who want business ownership without starting from scratch. By leveraging proven systems, prospective owners can focus on growth rather than reinventing the wheel.

2. The Power of Proven Systems Success in franchising often comes down to following established models. Adam emphasizes that the most successful franchisees are those who find a brand that resonates with them and fully commit to the franchise's processes. This "boring is beautiful" mindset underscores the value of consistency, structure, and support in achieving financial freedom and scalability. 3. Rethink What Success Looks Like Instead of chasing only glamorous industries, the episode celebrates "money in the muck", finding lucrative opportunities in unsexy but essential services like waste removal or compliance inspections. Aaron Gordon and Adam Goldman encourage listeners to broaden their definition of hustle, asserting that stability, recurring revenue, and local market mastery can be equally, if not more, rewarding.

Show Overview

00:00 Sports Unite and Inspire

05:25 Franchise vs. Starting New

07:01 Franchise Creativity and Individuality?

11:48 Debunking Franchising Myths

15:45 Advice for Serial Entrepreneurs

19:35 Unconventional Hustle, Big Rewards

21:50 Recurring Revenue, Unseen Hustle

23:28 Franchising: A Path to Entrepreneurship

In this episode of Keep Hustling, host Aaron Gordon sits down with Eric Hawkins, who left behind a 3,000-square-foot home for a tiny living lifestyle and never looked back. They unpack the pivotal moments behind Eric's decision, the transformative impact it had on his finances, relationships, and sense of freedom, and how simplicity can actually fuel a stronger hustle. Eric shares insights from his journey, including the importance of focusing on a single motivating image and staying flexible when life pivots. The episode is packed with real talk about overcoming societal expectations, redefining success, and leading a life of purpose. Plus, Eric reveals how his tiny hotel is inspiring others to experience downsized living. Eric Hawkins closes with his favorite quote: "Either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way."

If you've ever wondered whether living small could unlock bigger dreams, this conversation will inspire you to keep hustling and create your own path.

Get To Know Eric Hawkins Eric Hawkins is the owner of Cape Charles Tiny Livin, a tiny house hotel. But that's not where his story starts.

Eric walked away from a 3,000-square-foot traditional home to live tiny — a decision that reshaped his life, his finances, and his understanding of freedom. What began as a lifestyle shift turned into a business, and eventually into a tiny house village that has been featured in Virginia Living Magazine, The Tamron Hall Show, and CBN.

Today, Eric teaches others how to build income and options through tiny living — not by buying raw land or jumping in blind, but by learning how to think strategically and revive overlooked properties. He's the author of Unstuck and Unstoppable and the creator of a masterclass that helps people move from stuck and overwhelmed to clear and confident.

Eric speaks openly about fear, faith, freedom, and the practical steps it takes to design a life that actually fits — not just one that looks good on paper.

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3 Key Listener Takeaways 1. Define Your Own Hustle: Eric Hawkins emphasizes the importance of having a clear personal vision. Rather than hustling for what society expects, focus on the one image or goal that genuinely excites you and let it guide your daily decisions to maximize fulfillment.

2. Pivot Without Fear: The episode highlights that your "needle" (or goal) can and should evolve over time. Eric Hawkins's story of walking away from a 3,000 sq ft home to embrace tiny living shows that being flexible, not defined by possessions, and open to change leads to greater happiness and clarity.

3. Exposure Builds Confidence: Eric Hawkins encourages listeners to gain exposure and try new experiences, whether that's RV living or scaling back. Stepping outside your comfort zone, regardless of others' opinions, can move you from feeling stuck to being confident and clear about what you truly want.

Show Overview

00:00 Micro Living Enthusiasm Explored

06:11 Embracing Adventure Beyond Norms

10:08 Creating Memories, Living Fully

12:01 Define, Focus, Visualize Your Goal

13:53 Keep Hustling: Fulfillment Over Burnout

19:07 Embrace Change and Evolve

21:51 From Abandoned Court to Tiny Hotel

24:42 Choosing Life on Your Terms

In this episode of Keep Hustling, host Aaron Gordon sits down with Dr. André Walton, a multi-patented inventor, entrepreneur, and creativity coach. Dr. Walton shares how his upbringing fueled his creative drive, leading to innovations used by icons like Elton John and Frank Sinatra. The conversation explores the importance of creativity, how modern life often stifles our natural curiosity, and the value of emotional resilience. Dr. Walton unpacks how rewiring neural pathways and embracing creative thinking can help individuals banish burnout and restore well-being. He also discusses his journey from business success to designing a unique home in Portugal, emphasizing the importance of staying true to one's passions. The episode closes with inspiration for listeners to pursue their own creative paths and a motivating quote from JFK: "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." Get To Know André Walton

Dr. André Walton is a successful entrepreneur having taken two of his inventions to become global leaders in their field. He is also a social psychologist and life and business coach with a PhD focused on organizational creativity. He has spent over two decades researching how individuals and communities can harness creativity and resilience to overcome burnout and lead to positive change through creating environments conducive to creative thinking.

Andre is a TEDx Speaker, International Best-Selling author (of Creative Thinking: A coach's perspective) and televised speaker with extensive multicultural experience, having lived and worked in 7 different countries.

André's concept of Spherical Thinking™ relates to the imbalance between the creative thinking that we all had as young children and the more analytical cognitive style that we developed as adults (explained in greater detail in his TEDx talk). This imbalance exacerbates conditions such as anxiety and burnout, for which creative thinking provides a swift resolution. By reframing stress as a catalyst for growth by rewiring neural pathways also increases resilience, emotional intelligence and happiness!

Another of Andre's contributions to this field is the Group Affiliation Model of Creativity which focuses on the conflict between being creative and our innate desire for group membership. It explains why brainstorming doesn't work and why team building is not aligned with the goal of innovation.

As Visiting Professor of Creativity and Entrepreneurship at Newport Business School, he created executive programs and workshops for leading organizations including The Smithsonian, Virgin Group, Lloyds Bank, and the Welsh Government.

His unconventional journey includes building concrete boats in Greece, teaching scuba diving, and developing a boutique resort and Michelin-star-nominated restaurant in Portugal.

Through keynotes, workshops, podcasts and mentoring, Dr. Andre empowers audiences to embrace creative thinking, guard against burnout, and cultivate environments that foster both innovation and emotional resilience. LinkedIn Facebook Plan4Change Hire Dr. André Walton This is a freebie for our audience: https://plan4change.coach/free-resource

3 Key Listener Takeaways 1. Creativity as a Lifelong Catalyst: André Walton shares how creativity, nurtured both by upbringing and circumstance, became the backbone of his career—from inventing breakthrough products used by legends like Frank Sinatra and Elton John, to designing his own home in Portugal. His journey highlights the power of creative thinking as not just a career tool, but a guiding principle for personal fulfillment and success.

2. The Importance of Adapting Your Hustle: Both André Walton and Aaron Gordon discuss how true success means being willing to pivot—even when you're "at the top." André Walton's choice to leave thriving businesses to pursue new creative projects demonstrates the importance of defining (and redefining) your hustle to stay true to your passions, rather than simply following financial or societal expectations.

3. Building Emotional Resilience Through Creative Thinking: André Walton introduces listeners to the concept of rewiring neural pathways by balancing analytical and creative thinking. He explains that emotional resilience—our ability to handle stress, burnout, and anxiety—can be strengthened by intentionally stepping back from problems, looking at them creatively, and thus restoring well-being. This mindset shift is crucial for leaders and anyone pursuing personal or professional growth.

Show Overview 00:00 Inventing a Revolutionary Drum Microphone

05:04 Unspoken Influence Shapes Motivation

09:42 From Stardom to Southern Portugal

12:28 Prioritizing Creativity Over Success

15:37 Opportunities in the Digital Age

19:07 Stress Limits Creative Thinking

22:13 Embrace Creativity, Chase Your Dreams

24:09 Creativity Drives Human Evolution

27:17 Support & Connect with Us

In this episode of Keep Hustling, Aaron Gordon welcomes Carrie West, a narrative coach and author, to explore how personal stories shape our lives and career paths. Carrie West shares her journey from humble beginnings to discovering the power of rewriting her own story, a concept she now helps others embrace. The conversation delves into the importance of awareness, breaking patterns, and updating your "life narrative" to reflect potential and fulfillment. They discuss handling challenges as plot twists, the value of being both protagonist and director in your own story, and why "anything can change" is a quote to live by. The episode is filled with practical wisdom for anyone seeking to pivot, overcome adversity, and craft a purposeful future, reminding listeners to always keep hustling.

Carrie KC West is an award-winning international bestselling author, sought-after speaker, and transformational story coach who founded the Storytellers Academy (now often referred to as Storytellers Studio) to help people take back the pen on their own lives.

She works with capable, high-achieving people who look successful on the outside but feel quietly stuck or limited inside, whether around money, relationships, health, leadership, or how they're aging. Drawing from her years in the entertainment world, Carrie shows clients that the real issue isn't broken habits or a weak mindset. It's an outdated story they're still living from without realizing it.

Her approach is straightforward and forward-looking: spot the hidden narrative that's been calling the shots, listen to what your body already knows, and start consciously writing the next chapter. No endless positive affirmations or hustle required—just authorship. When the story shifts, the choices that used to feel impossible suddenly start making sense, and change ripples across your whole life without force.

She's the author of Money Rewritten, where she flips the usual money advice on its head: "You don't have a money problem. You have a money story." The book and her signature Money Rewritten 5-Day Challenge give people practical tools to move from financial stress and self-sabotage to clarity and real freedom. Her upcoming/related work includes Life Rewritten (a #1 international bestseller released around March 2025) and other "Rewritten" explorations like love, health, and legacy.

At the heart of everything Carrie does is one clear truth: You're not broken. The story might be. And the moment you claim authorship, everything begins to change. The pen, as she likes to say, is already in your hand.

3 Key Listener Takeaways

1. Rewrite Your Story: Carrie West underscores the power each person has to update their life narrative. By recognizing that many of our beliefs and patterns are shaped by inherited stories, listeners are reminded they can consciously choose the themes and outcomes of their own journey, leading to greater fulfillment and purpose.
2. Respond to Adversity: Both Aaron Gordon and Carrie West share that life's challenges are inevitable, but how we respond is what defines us. Rather than striving for perfection, embracing crises and using micro-moments of change enable growth and resilience, reinforcing the idea that setbacks are opportunities to rewrite and direct our unique story.
3. Own Your Role: The episode highlights that every individual is both the protagonist and the director of their life story. By focusing on what you can control and letting go of the urge to "fix the rest of the world," listeners are encouraged to take ownership of their actions and intentionality, shaping their best role within the collective narrative.

Carrie West's favorite motivational quote: "Anything can change."

00:00 Keep Hustling Podcast Intro 05:51 Hustle, Story, and Self-Awareness 06:47 Rewriting Life's Chapters 12:47 Calm Minds Over Reactive Brains 14:55 Individual Stories Amid Infinite Others 18:59 Redefining My Personal Story 20:51 Why I Changed My Name 23:20 Stay Connected with Keep Hustling

In this episode of Keep Hustling, Aaron Gordon sits down with Kyle Bailey, an Austin-based entrepreneur whose journey spans from lumberjack and tradesman to digital marketing agency owner. Kyle Bailey shares how his hands-on beginnings in the trades prepared him for a pivotal career shift into online marketing after the 2009 housing crash. The conversation dives deep into the impact of AI on the trades and digital marketing, the importance of adaptability, and why embracing change is vital for long-term success. Kyle Bailey discusses the evolving landscape of online lead generation and offers insightful advice for tradespeople and hustlers everywhere. The episode wraps up with motivational wisdom on growth, resilience, and "the work working on you," making this a must-listen for anyone navigating career pivots or seeking inspiration to keep moving forward.

Get To Know Shaun Free

Shaun Free is a renowned burn survivor, keynote speaker, and accomplished operations manager.

As a burn survivor, Shaun has transformed personal adversity into a powerful message of resilience, inspiring audiences as a keynote speaker across the country. He serves as an Idaho STAR instructor, MSF Rider Coach, and is deeply involved in peer support through the Phoenix SOAR program. Additionally, Shaun represents burn survivors as an MSKTC Ambassador, advocating for research and awareness.

Currently, Shaun leads operations for Idaho STAR motorcycle training, drawing on a decade of expertise with the Idaho STAR curriculum and five years as a certified MSF Rider Coach.

He brings over 20 years of proven leadership in driver sales, logistics, and fleet management, with extensive experience overseeing DOT compliance and refrigerated trailer operations.

Burn Survivor keynote speaker with a message of overcoming adversity and making the most out of this experience.

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3 Episode Key Takeaways

1. Build Unshakeable Foundations: Life's biggest challenges are rarely announced in advance. Shaun Free emphasizes that his "hustle" mentality, commitment to fitness, and support network were built long before the crisis struck, giving him the strength to survive and thrive.

2. From Victim to Thriver: The true transformation happens when you draw a line in the sand and refuse to let outside events define you. This episode highlights how shifting from a victim mindset to an empowered, "thriver" perspective is a conscious, daily decision—one that unlocks growth and possibility.

3. Give Back, Before You Need Support: Success is rarely a solo mission. Throughout his recovery, Shaun Free's existing relationships and willingness to give to others fueled his comeback. The lesson: invest in your community, because those connections may be the scaffolding that lifts you during your lowest moments.

Show Overview 00:00 From Farm Life to Wrestling

04:25 Surreal Brush with Disaster

06:16 Inspiration Found in Others

09:39 Resilience Starts Before Adversity

14:38 Success Sometimes Requires Ego

15:38 Keep Hustling: Overcoming Doubt

21:52 Surviving, Healing, and Gratitude

23:58 Stay Curious, Keep Hustling

In this episode of Keep Hustling, Aaron Gordon sits down with Kyle Bailey, an Austin-based entrepreneur whose journey spans from lumberjack and tradesman to digital marketing agency owner. Kyle Bailey shares how his hands-on beginnings in the trades prepared him for a pivotal career shift into online marketing after the 2009 housing crash. The conversation dives deep into the impact of AI on the trades and digital marketing, the importance of adaptability, and why embracing change is vital for long-term success. Kyle Bailey discusses the evolving landscape of online lead generation and offers insightful advice for tradespeople and hustlers everywhere. The episode wraps up with motivational wisdom on growth, resilience, and "the work working on you," making this a must-listen for anyone navigating career pivots or seeking inspiration to keep moving forward.

Get To Know Kyle Bailey

Kyle Bailey is the Managing Director and a results-driven SEO expert at Frontburner Marketing, renowned for helping small business owners achieve measurable growth through innovative online strategies. Before launching his marketing career, Kyle spent decades immersed in the construction and home service industries, performing hands-on labor on job sites across Texas from a young age. His early years were defined by hard work, crawling under houses, working in extreme heat, and mastering every aspect of home construction. This extensive blue-collar background gave Kyle an authentic understanding of the challenges small business owners face in the trades.

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3 Episode Key Takeaways

1. The Power of Strategic Adaptability: Kyle Bailey's journey from lumberjack and tradesman to digital marketing agency owner demonstrates the value of flexibility and adaptation. Rather than sticking to a single path, he continually sought new skills and opportunities, ultimately leveraging his hands-on experience in the trades to carve out a niche in online lead generation for service businesses.

2. Winning in the Age of AI: The conversation between Aaron Gordon and Kyle Bailey dispels fears about AI replacing human trades, instead highlighting the evolving importance of digital presence. Tradespeople who embrace online optimization and AI-driven search changes outperform those who ignore these trends, proving that blending craft mastery with digital strategy is essential for future success.

3. Resilience and Growth through Failure: Kyle Bailey stresses the necessity of self-belief and reframing setbacks as learning opportunities. He encourages listeners to see every problem as a chance for growth, reminding us that you don't truly fail until you quit. The episode champions a mindset of perseverance, humility, and viewing the "work" as a process that shapes personal and professional evolution.

Show Overview 00:00 Early Start in Construction

03:30 From Trades to Online Marketing

07:05 Clear Business Listings Matter

12:56 Balancing AI and Skilled Trades

13:49 Modern Plumber Referrals Process

19:12 Success Through High-End Sales

21:27 Embracing Pivot for Success

23:23 Flat Tire: Mindset Shift

26:31 The Work Works on You

In this episode of Keep Hustling, host Aaron Gordon sits down with Morgan Murray, a financial advisor who specializes in divorce financial planning. Morgan Murray shares her personal journey from early marriage and divorce to rebuilding her life and career, highlighting the importance of financial literacy and open communication in relationships. The conversation explores why so many people avoid learning about their finances, how to prevent financial ignorance, and practical steps to foster financial health in marriage. Morgan Murray also discusses her leap into entrepreneurship, the value of resilience, and offers actionable advice for anyone starting out or facing major life changes. The episode wraps up with an inspiring quote about the everyday discipline behind true greatness.

Get To Know Morgan Murray

Morgan Murray is a Certified Financial Planner™ and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® who helps individuals navigate the financial realities of divorce and confidently rebuild their lives. After experiencing her own unexpected divorce and becoming a single mom, Morgan turned a deeply personal challenge into a mission-driven career—supporting others through one of life's most financially and emotionally complex transitions.

Through her firm, Abri (pronounced "uh-bree"), Morgan serves clients all over the country, providing clarity, advocacy, and a steady hand during the storm of divorce. She works closely with family law attorneys in high-conflict cases and also helps amicably divorcing couples create fair, forward-looking financial settlements.

Named after the French word for "shelter," Abri reflects Morgan's core philosophy: everyone deserves a safe place to land and a clear financial path forward when life changes unexpectedly.

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3 Episode Key Takeaways

1. Build Financial Awareness Early: Morgan Murray stresses the life-changing impact of understanding your finances before marriage and throughout your relationship. Open communication and curiosity about money matters can prevent much larger problems down the line, reducing vulnerability in times of crisis and setting a foundation for partnership and independence.

2. Use Setbacks as a Springboard: Turning difficult personal experiences, such as divorce, into sources of professional purpose and personal empowerment is a hallmark of Morgan Murray's story. Rather than succumbing to adversity, embracing it as fuel for new directions can unlock resilience and unexpected opportunities for growth.

3. Commit Fully, Burn the Ships: When launching her career as a financial advisor, Morgan Murray adopted a "no turning back" mindset, diving all in to pursue her purpose. Her story illustrates the power of decisive action, especially when coupled with support and strategic risk-taking, as the real engine behind sustainable change and long-term personal success.

Show Overview 00:00 Keep Hustling Podcast

04:59 Finding Passion Over Career Plans

06:59 Redefining Hustle and Passion

10:02 Choosing Seasons Over Relocation

13:38 Trust and Rapport Drive Sales

17:55 Personal Connection Through Audio

19:33 Theater of the Mind

25:38 Guiding Clarity to Solutions

In this episode of Keep Hustling, host Aaron Gordon sits down with podcast coach Erik Johnson to explore the art of pursuing your passion and sharing your story through podcasting. Erik Johnson discusses his journey from hustling as a young magician to building a business helping others leverage podcasts for personal and professional growth. The conversation dives into mastering trust, building authentic relationships, and why embracing curiosity and courage are key traits of successful podcasters. Packed with insights about overcoming fear, learning to pivot, and "enjoying the journey" rather than just chasing the destination, this episode will inspire anyone looking to level up their hustle — in podcasting and beyond. Plus, Erik Johnson shares his favorite motivational quote and practical wisdom for helping others get what they want.

Get To Know Erik Johnson

Erik K. Johnson is a renowned radio talent coach and podcasting strategist with over 25 years of industry expertise. Since 1995, Erik has empowered broadcasters and podcasters to captivate audiences, leading numerous radio stations and shows to #1 ratings. His proven methods help transform information into dynamic entertainment and foster lasting, profitable listener relationships. Through his coaching, writing, and workshops, Erik equips creators with actionable strategies to elevate their content and grow their influence.

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3 Episode Key Takeaways

1. Pursue Passion Early and Fearlessly: Erik Johnson and Aaron Gordon both highlight the advantages of identifying and acting on your passions as early as possible. The episode underscores that making bold career pivots sooner—rather than later—can prevent years spent in unfulfilling jobs, and that today's interconnected world offers more opportunities than ever to chase what excites you.

2. Build Genuine Trust in Relationships: The conversation explores the critical importance of mastering trust—not as a tactic, but as an authentic process of sharing yourself and building rapport. Erik Johnson reveals that real connection and long-term success, in both sales and podcasting, come from transparency and earning trust through sustained, sincere engagement rather than transactional interactions.

3. Lean Into Curiosity and Courage: Success in podcasting and beyond is rooted in insatiable curiosity and the willingness to act despite fear. Erik Johnson points out that impactful podcasters ask meaningful questions, listen actively, and are unafraid to polarize. Instead of striving for universal approval, they lean into vulnerability, take risks, and most importantly, enjoy the journey, rather than obsess over the destination.

Show Overview 04:59 Finding Passion Over Career Plans

06:59 Redefining Hustle and Passion

10:02 Choosing Seasons Over Relocation

13:38 Trust and Rapport Drive Sales

17:55 Personal Connection Through Audio

19:33 Theater of the Mind

25:38 Guiding Clarity to Solutions

On this episode of Keep Hustling, Aaron Gordon welcomes Joseph Binelli, a Brooklyn-based entrepreneur with roots in Georgian culture and the custom kitchen cabinet industry. Joseph Binelli shares how his passion for food and family shaped his unique path from an aspiring chef to an expert in kitchen design, emphasizing the importance of kitchens as communal spaces that bring people together. The conversation explores how growing up surrounded by the values of first-generation immigrants instilled a strong work ethic, resilience, and appreciation for familial support. Aaron Gordon and Joseph Binelli discuss practical tips for kitchen renovations, the pitfalls of prioritizing aesthetics over functionality, and the invaluable lesson of owning up to mistakes in service businesses. The episode also dives into personal stories about family, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and strategies for nurturing deep family connections. Joseph Binelli closes with his motivating philosophy: "Don't compare yourself to who you were yesterday. Look forward to who you're going to be tomorrow." This insightful conversation is packed with authenticity, practical advice, and inspiration for anyone hustling to build a meaningful life and career. Get To Know Joseph Binelli Joseph Binelli is a visionary leader and the CEO of Binelli Kitchen Designs, renowned for his exceptional expertise in luxury kitchen design and project logistics. With over a decade of industry experience, Joseph has earned a reputation for delivering exquisite, functional, and timeless spaces that set new standards in the field. Driven by an unwavering commitment to excellence, Joseph blends creativity with meticulous attention to detail, overseeing every project from concept to completion. His portfolio spans high-end residential developments, sophisticated urban homes, and collaborations with prominent architects and interior designers. Joseph's approach is rooted in understanding each client's unique vision, ensuring every space is both a work of art and a model of practicality. Under Joseph's leadership, Binelli Kitchen Designs has grown into a recognized authority in the industry, known for its seamless project delivery, innovative solutions, and enduring client relationships. He is celebrated not only for his technical acumen but also for his personable, collaborative style, which fosters trust and inspires teams to deliver exceptional results. Outside of his professional achievements, Joseph is passionate about mentoring emerging talent, staying ahead of design trends, and advocating for sustainable practices. His dedication and forward-thinking perspective continue to raise the bar for luxury kitchen design worldwide. LinkedIn

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3 Episode Key Takeaways 1. Embrace Your Roots: Growing up with both parents and grandparents close by deeply shaped Joseph Binelli's values, work ethic, and approach to business. His story highlights how appreciating family heritage and learning from previous generations can provide powerful motivation and direction in your hustle. 2. Function Over Flash in Business and Design: When it comes to kitchens—and by extension, any business or product—Joseph Binelli stresses the importance of prioritizing practical function over superficial trends. Avoid getting caught up in Instagram-worthy features if they don't serve your real needs. This mindset is a game-changer for long-term satisfaction and success. 3. Own Your Mistakes: Both speakers reinforce that in service businesses, honesty and transparency are everything. Joseph Binelli recounts learning the hard way: admitting errors and making things right builds trust, whereas hiding mistakes erodes client relationships. Authenticity and accountability are invaluable assets for every hustler's journey.

Show Overview

00:00 From Food Passion to Kitchens 04:16 Rediscovering Togetherness and Connection 08:31 Kitchens as Social Spaces 11:39 Lessons in Resilience and Growth 15:42 Drawer Installation Mishap Explained 18:52 Reinventing Cabinet Utility 20:18 3D Kitchen Design Process