Ken Owens is chief technical officer of Cloud Infrastructure Services (CIS) at Cisco Systems, helping to create strategy for CIS business. In this interview with The New Stack’s Alex Williams, Owens described the role of microservices in developer and operations teams, and the practices emerging around scheduling and service discovery.

When asked about what the containers and microservices movement has meant to those teams, Owens replied, “it has allowed the developer and the infrastructure teams to work closer together to create a joint solution that runs in their internal development environments, and runs in the test and QA and production environments in the same manner that developers test it against.”

Owens also discusses realizing this potential by using Mantl, the goal of which is to provide a fully functional, instrumented, and portable container-based PaaS that serves teams working with both enterprise and small-scale applications.