Dr. Ken Collins has been a professor at Asbury Theological Seminary since 1995 (which means he got there the same year I did). He has written and taught extensively on all facets of Wesleyan theology. His The Theology of John Wesley: Holy Love and the Shape of Grace was ground-breaking and established Collins as a preeminent theologian in the field. His work on holiness as "holy love” and grace as both "free and co-operant" is fascinating and that's where we'll be in this podcast, as we talk about his latest publication, Generous Divine Love.