In Part Two of my in-person conversation with Dr. James Leathem, we pick up exactly where we left off: defining the ego.
In psychedelic work, “ego dissolution” is a phrase we hear constantly — but what is the ego, really? Dr. James defines it not as arrogance, but as the learned identity of self, meaning the accumulated conditioning, patterns, and protective mechanisms that shape how we experience the world.
From there, we move into the technical depth of ketamine therapy.
We discuss mode of administration (IV vs IM vs nasal), dosage considerations, and why steady-state IV infusions create a different arc of experience. We unpack high-threshold nervous systems, tolerance, and why needing a higher dose is a nervous system conversation, not a moral one.
We also explore music as medicine and the original shamanic tool that guides the journey where language cannot reach.
And at the core of this episode is the most important equation:
Ketamine + daily integration practice = transformation.
Ketamine alone is not the line in the sand. It opens a neuroplastic window. What you do during that window determines whether you reinforce old patterns or build new ones.
We talk about:
• Positive vs negative neuroplasticity
• Using substances for insight vs using substances to numb
• The difference between escaping yourself and moving toward yourself
• Why the best integration is discovering that the answers were within you all along
We also reference Casey Dubrovic’s book Psychedeliciatry (Episode 68 of this show), including his powerful framework:
Name it to tame it.
Feel it to heal it.
Reframe it to reclaim it.
You can find his book linked below, along with Dr. James’ Genius Network talk on transformational medicine.
And in true Dr. James fashion — this episode ends with not one, but two raps, so make sure to listen through to the end.
🔗 Resources Mentioned
👉Dr. James Leathem – Genius Network Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BamUlV5KPB8
👉Casey Dubrovic, Psychedeliciatry
https://www.amazon.com/-/he/PSYCHEDELICIATRY-Methodology-CASEY-DUBRAVCIC-PMHNP/dp/1966212925
👉Episode 68 – Casey Dubrovic on Ketamine Connections
👉Ketamine Preparation Protocol (KPP) www.annakrishtal.com/kpp