Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about Revelation 6-8 and the symbolism and meaning of the text.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What is the Book of Revelation about?
• Where are we in the book of Revelation?
• What are the first four seals?
• Why are the creatures saying “come”?
• What is the fifth seal?
• Who are the earth dwellers?
• How do we get familiar enough with the Bible to begin to understand passages of scripture like this?
• What is happening in the sixth seal?
• What does 144,000 represent?
• What does Revelation 7:9-14 tell us?
• What is the seventh seal and what happens when is opened?
• How does this passage of scripture encourage you?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Revelation 6-8, Revelation 1:5-8, Matthew 24:4, Exodus 28:36-38, Genesis 12, 15, & 17

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Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, what is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What is something most people take for granted about the Bible that they would be surprised by?
• Why would I be reading the Bible to pay attention to what the Bible is, not who God is?
• Why did you want to write a book about the Bible?

Guest Bio:

Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at Spurgeon College. He has written a devotional on Jonah, a book for pastors titled “No Neutral Words: The Pastor’s Investment and Stewardship of His Most Precious and Powerful Tool”, and a book for student pastors titled “Fulfill Your *Student Ministry: A Manifesto and Field Guide.”

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how we can understand the story of Scripture and why it’s important for us to know it.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Can you share your journey from knowing Bible stories to knowing it was all one larger narrative?
• How do you communicate the story of the Bible?
• What is the framework of the story?
• What’s a one-word cheat code for the story of the Bible?
• Why is knowing the story of Scripture important?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Training the Church

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Kyle Worley is joined by Patrick Schreiner to answer the question, is the gospel political?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Is the Gospel political?
• How do we navigate applying principles in our political landscape that might be vastly unimaginable from the time of Jesus?

Guest Bio:

Patrick Schreiner is the Director of the Residency PhD program, Associate Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Gene and Jo Downing Endowed Chair of Biblical Studies. He is the author of numerous books including but not limited to; The Four Gospels: Jesus, the Hope of the World, The Transfiguration of Christ: An Exegetical and Theological Reading, a commentary on Acts, The Visual Word: An Illustrated Guide to the New Testament Books, and Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Romans 13, Acts 5, Mark 12
• “Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World” by Patrick Schreiner

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the imagery and themes found in Revelation 4 and what encouragement we can find from this passage.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Chapter four marks a shift in the book; doesn’t it?
• Where is throne imagery found throughout the Bible?
• What are the beasts and should they freak us out?
• What’s being proclaimed around the throne?
• What’s with the seven seals on the scroll?
• Who is the lamb and how does lamb imagery connect with the rest of the bible’s themes and imagery?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Revelation 4, Daniel 7, Isaiah 6, Matthew 24:36, Genesis 9:8, Revelation 1:4-8, Genesis 49, Isaiah 11, Genesis 15
• Knowing Faith Episode:
  • Salvation: Cosmic Restoration
• “Revelation Song” by Kari Jobe
• “Is He Worthy?” by Andrew Peterson

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Kyle Worley is joined by Ronni Kurtz to answer the question; what does incomprehensibility mean and is God incomprehensible?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What does incomprehensibility mean?
• Is God incomprehensible?
• How would you encourage someone who is trying to comprehend who God is?

Helpful Definitions:

• Immutable: God can’t change.
• Incomprehensibility: There is an intellectual limitation by virtue of our being creatures that will not allow us to wrap our mind fully around God as He is as a Creator.
• Comprehend: To surround.
• Divine Accommodation: God reveals himself to us in creaturely language.

Guest Bio:

Ronni Kurtz serves as an Assistant Professor of Theology at Cedarville University.

He is the author of Fruitful Theology: How the Life of the Mind Leads to the Life of the Soul; Proclaiming the Triune God: The Doctrine of the Trinity in the Life of the Church; and Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology.  

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Exodus 33
• “Light Unapproachable: Divine Incomprehensibility and the Task of Theology” by Ronni Kurtz

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the doctrines of creation and providence.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why do we treat the doctrines of creation and providence together?
• Barry Jones says that our creation story determines the trajectory of our culture. What does that mean? 
• What are some questions the original audience was asking?
• What are the essentials of a Christian doctrine of creation?
• What’s a good definition of providence?

Helpful Definitions:

• Transcendent: God is other (by an infinite extent).
• Imminent: God is near to his creation.
• Creator-Creature Distinction: God is the creator, everything else is creation.
• Theological Triage: Rightly prioritize the urgency and clarity with which we address the topics in a theological category.
• Providence: God’s continued governance and fatherly care over all things.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Genesis 1-2
• “You Are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English
• “Remember and Rehearse” by JT English
• “Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley

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Kyle Worley is joined by Geoff Chang to answer the question what is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What is Charles Spurgeon's vision for a faithful church?
• Why would it be worth articulating “the army of God” language today?
• What does “the church militant” and “the church triumphant” mean? 

Guest Bio:

Geoff Chang serves as Assistant Professor of Church History and Historical Theology and the Curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

He is the volume editor of The Lost Sermons of C.H. Spurgeon Volumes 5, 6, and 7 and the author of Spurgeon the Pastor: Recovering a Biblical and Theological Vision for Ministry; Christ Our All: Poems for the Christian Pilgrim; and The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “The Army of God: Spurgeon’s Vision for the Church” by Geoffrey Chang

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what is happening with evangelical leaders and how we can respond faithfully.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• When a leader “falls”, does it discount everything God has done through their ministry?
• How does news like this strike you? What is your response to it?
• Why do we have low expectations for self-control?
• Would it be good in light of these things for church staff to get together and talk about these things?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• 1 Peter 5
• Knowing Faith
  • Episode #10 – Brothers & Sisters: Can we Do Theology Together?
  • Episode #44 – A Generous Complementarianism
  • Episode #88 – Men and Women in Genesis 2 with Hannah Anderson
  • Episode #93 – Men and Women In a Broken World with Katie McCoy
  • Episode #151 – A Generous Complementarianism: Again
  • Episode #177 – Brothers and Sisters: More than a Metaphor

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Kyle Worley is joined by Don Whitney to answer the question; How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• How does a church engage in the spiritual discipline together?
• Do Christians think about fellowship the right way?

Helpful Definitions:

• Spiritual Disciplines: practices found in the Bible by which we experience God and grow in Christlikeness.
• Koinonia (κοινωνία): Fellowship, talking about God and the things of God.

Guest Bio:

Don Whitney is the Professor of Biblical Spirituality and the John H. Powell Professor of Pastoral Ministry at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He served there in a similar position from 1995 to 2005, and then as Professor of Biblical Spiritual and Associate Dean at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, from 2005 to 2024.

He has authored nine books, including Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life and Praying the Bible, and is a popular conference speaker, especially on personal and congregational spirituality.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• 1 Timothy 4:7, Acts 2:42

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