Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the beginning of the book of Revelation and its meaning.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What does the word “revelation” mean? 
• Why is the language so strange if this book is meant to reveal?
• What is a symbolic universe?
• How important is what comes before the book of Revelation in understanding the book?
• Is there a grid we should be using or do we treat angelic language throughout Revelation on a case by case basis?
• What is the book of Revelation about?
• What sevens do we get before we get to the seven churches?
• Why these seven churches?
• What is the angle of these letters?
• Who are the Nicolaitans?
• What stands out from them?
• What can encouragement can we draw from this?

Helpful Definitions:

• Revelation: To reveal, to disclose.
• Angel: Messenger.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Revelation 1

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley dive into the doctrine of Revelation to discuss how we can know God.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are we currently working on?
• How has God revealed Himself?
• Is it possible to say true things about God? 
• How do we speak truthfully about God?
• What is Illumination?
• Can we read the Bible just like we would read any other book?

Helpful Definitions:

• Natural Revelation: A common knowledge of God that is given to all humanity.
• Special Revelation: God has revealed himself to us in Christ and through Scripture.
• Theophnustos (θεόπνευστος): God-breathed.
• Illumination: The Holy Spirit who has inspired God’s word, turns the light on for us to rightly hear and receive what God has already testified to. 
• Christological Analogy: The Bible is fully divine and fully human yet one text.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Romans 1:20, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:15, 2 Timothy 3:16, Psalm 36, Revelation 5

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the different ways people interpret the Book of Revelation.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• How do we put the phrase “was, is, and is to come” in the right context?
• What tier of importance is Eschatology?
• What is hermeneutics?
• Is the only kind of prophecy telling the future?
• What are the main approaches to this book?
• Why is it significant to have conversations about these theological categories?

Helpful Definitions:

• Hermeneutics: How do we interpret and read Biblical texts?
• Prophecy: Telling us things that are eternally true.
  • Foretelling: Future prediction of events that have yet to happen.
  • Forthtelling: Divine commentary of what is happening. Proclaiming.
• Futurist: Everything from Rev. 4:1 onward to be concerning future unfulfilled affairs/events.
• Historicist: A prophecy laying out the history of the church between the two advents.
• Preterist: Most prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled in the years immediately following John’s writing of the book.
• Idealist: Revelation is concerned about presenting timeless principles and we should not be concerned about tying fulfillment (past, present, or future) to prophecies.
• Ladd: “eclectic approach” Blending futurist and preterist approaches. Proper fulfillment in the near future and some of them most hold trust for a future fulfillment.
• Historicist/Idealist: Historicist with a heavy emphasis on the symbolic nature of the text.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Revelation 1:8, 1:17, Revelation 2:8, Revelation 5, Revelation 4:1

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley talk about the importance of the doctrine of the Trinity and what it is (and isn’t).

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Is it fair to say that the Trinity is a bit like water in that it can take three forms: liquid, gas, and solid?
• How do we define the Trinity?
• Why is it important to try to understand this doctrine?
• If the word Trinity isn’t in the bible, why is it a core Christian doctrine?
• Does the Trinity have a hierarchy?
• What sets God apart from His creatures?

Helpful Definitions:

• Trinity: God eternally exists as one essence and three distinct persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, each of which is fully God, yet there is One God.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Ephesians 1, Mark 12:30, Romans 12:2, Philippians 4:8-9, Romans 11, Psalm 1:2-3, 1 Samuel 8:5, John 13-17
• Apostles creed
• Nicea creed
• Chocodeon creed
• Matthew Barrett The Trinity

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what the book of Revelation is about and how we can begin to approach studying it.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are we doing this season?
• What are your thoughts about current events - are we living in the end times?
• What does Advent have to do with Revelation?
• Does your study provide a conclusive answer to the question of the rapture?
• What genre of literature is Revelation?
• How do we read and approach Scripture appropriately?
• What are you looking forward to jumping into when studying the book of Revelation?
• What is your experience in reading the different views of Revelation?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “Don’t Fear the Marks in Revelation” by Jen Wilkin
• “Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss deep discipleship, how the church today needs discipleship, and a big project they have been working on!

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are we doing this season?
• Are we producing deep disciples?
• What is Deep Discipleship?
• Where does Deep Discipleship relate to women’s ministry?
• What is coming in 2025 with Lifeway?
• What are some of the doctrines we are excited to explore this season?

Helpful Definitions:

• Theology: Words about God.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Habakkuk 2:14
• “Deep Discipleship” by JT English
• “You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and JT English
• Deep Discipleship Cohort
• The State of Theology

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Season 13 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on August 22! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 13.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are we doing this season?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Revelation
• “Revelation: Eternal King, Everlasting Kingdom” by Jen Wilkin
• Training the Church

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Kyle Worley is joined by Kevin Grasso to discuss why learning the Bible in its original language is important and how Biblingo can help.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why is it valuable for ordinary people to be able to study the bible in the original languages?
• Where did the desire to know the Bible in its original languages come from for you?
• Are there any passages in Exodus that you could help us dive deeper into by looking at the original language it was written in?
• What would you say to the person who doesn’t have time for a seminary degree or class to learn the Bible in its original language?
• How does Biblingo work?

Guest Bio:

Kevin Grasso is the co-founder and Ceo of Biblingo: Biblingo’s mission is to advance God’s Word in the world by making the biblical languages more accessible and easier to learn through technology.

Kevin holds an MA in Linguistics with a concentration in Bible Translation from Dallas International University, an MA in comparative religion from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (focusing on Paul and second temple Judaism), and a PhD in Hebrew Language from Hebrew University. He has published in both Greek and Hebrew linguistics and focuses his research on the intersection of linguistics, exegesis, and biblical theology.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Exodus 3, Exodus 6, Exodus 22:22
• Biblingo

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Kyle Worley is joined by Rebecca McLaughlin to talk about her newest book “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” 

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why did you write this book?
• What are the top three most common claims you deal with in the book? 
• How can Christians speak the truth in love online and in person when it comes to addressing these claims?
• What do you hope Christians will do with this book?

Guest Bio:

Rebecca McLaughlin holds a PhD from Cambridge University and a theology degree from Oak Hill Seminary in London. She is the author of several books, including Confronting Christianity, The Secular Creed, Jesus Through the Eyes of Women, and Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?. You can follow her on X, Instagram, or her website.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• “Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?” by Rebecca McLaughlin
• “Confronting Christianity” by Rebecca McLaughlin
• “Is God Anti-Gay?” by Sam Allberry

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley come back to one of their most popular topics; brothers and sisters.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Indisputably: This is something we get more feedback on than just about anything else…why is that?
• How has the culture shift affected this conversation?
• What has been the church's response to the shift in culture?
• What does the biblical doctrine of anthropology related to men and women have to affirm?
• When we say “we need each other,” what does that mean?
• What are the threats and liabilities of relationships? What about not having these relationships?
• Why are we using family-oriented language in this conversation?
• Does this apply to those who are not believers?
• How has this changed us? How has it changed our ministries?
• Why is getting this right crucial?

Helpful Definitions:

• Adelphoi (ἀδελφοί): Brothers and sisters. The family of God.
• Philia: A kind of love that exists only among family, not just biologically but spiritually through the blood of Christ.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

• Crossway: Women of the Word
• “Jesus through the Eyes of Women” by Rebecca McLaughlin

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