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Land Between The Rivers: Iraq Then and Now - feat. Bartle Bull


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Acclaimed by critics, Land Between the Rivers: A 5,000-Year History of Iraq offers a sweeping chronicle of the region often called the cradle of civilization - a vital crossroads between East and West. Its author, Bartle Bull, draws on his experience as a freelance reporter during the Iraq War in the early 2000s.


Risking their own safety, courageous Iraqis sheltered Bartle, enabling him to report from the front lines for outlets such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Financial Times. As a tribute to these remarkable individuals, Bartle penned this extraordinary book, illuminating Iraq’s pivotal role in world history.


In this episode, Bartle and I journey through the ages: from the ancient world of Mesopotamia and the reign of Suleiman the Magnificent, to the creation of modern Iraq after World War I, the 1958 assassination of the Iraqi royal family, the rise of Sadam Hussein and the complexities of Iraq’s political landscape today.


We delve into the dangers he faced as a war correspondent, examine the diverse ethnic and religious groups of Iraq and Iran, and discuss the region’s enduring conflicts.


As the Middle East continues to grapple with conflict and change, Bartle examines Iraq’s past and present, revealing how history shapes the realities of today.


Bartle’s depth of knowledge and storytelling are truly captivating. I learned so much from this conversation, and I’m sure you will, too.


For history lovers or those who want to learn more about this very important part of the world, this episode is for you!


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