This episode was recorded when Ron Steslow was host of The Lincoln Project Podcast (www.lincolnproject.us). He is no longer affiliated with the organization. This feed is now the home of Politicology. Host and Co-founder Ron Steslow asks retired Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, a Lincoln Project Senior Advisor and former Spokesman for General David Petraeus, to break down the hypocrisy of the third theme of the 2020 Republican National Convention: “The Land of Heroes.”

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