Sat and Bik are joined by Landon Ferraro to talk about how a rebuild only works if the veterans around truly want to be part of it, and that someone like Blueger represents a hole you can replace without much trouble. He highlights how underrated it is to jump in and out of the lineup the way Max Sasson does, calling it a real skill that not everyone has. Looking around the league, Ferraro points to Minnesota as a team that’s done a solid job so far—though he thinks they still have room to add if they want to become genuinely formidable.

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