Is there any coherence to Trumpism from a policy standpoint? Public policy expert, Lanhee Chen, says coherence is overrated... at least at this moment. 

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In this conversation with Lanhee Chen, we explore some hard questions in today's fraught political moment. As a key policy advisor to both Mitt Romney and Marco Rubio on their respective presidential campaigns, how can candidates and elected officials balance political considerations and policy priorities? Is there a place for a "compassionate conservative" in today's Republican Party? Is there a place for conservatives in today's California? We also discuss key moments that influenced Lanhee’s career, his conservative philosophy shaped by early experiences, and significant milestones like running for statewide office in California as a Republican. Lanhee shares insights into political coherence, the impact of electoral processes, and his stance on contemporary issues such as regulatory policies and international relations.

Lanhee Chen is a widely respected public policy expert who has advised numerous high-profile Republican candidates and served as a presidential appointee in both Republican and Democratic administrations. He is currently the David and Diane Steffy Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution, as well as the Director of Domestic Policy Studies and Lecturer in the Public Policy Program at Stanford University.

00:53 Guest Introduction: Lanhee Chen

01:36 Lanhee Chen's Early Interest in Politics

03:56 Formulating a Conservative Philosophy

09:06 Working with Mitt Romney

14:27 Challenges in Modern Politics

17:42 The State of California Politics

21:50 Advice for New Politicians

24:23 Impact of Electoral Processes

28:45 Electoral Reforms and Future Outlook

32:01 The Rise of Neopopulism in American Politics

34:43 Assessing Trumpism and Policy Coherence

37:34 Hope and Concerns for the Upcoming Administration

39:45 Reflecting on Biden's Legislative Accomplishments

46:49 Final Thoughts and Future Plans

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