What if the most important leadership lessons aren’t learned on a stage, but in the wilderness, through pruning, weakness, and limitation? In this conversation with Lindy Black, we explore how God shapes leaders from the inside out. With decades of experience in the Navigators and Trueface, Lindy shares her own journey of discovering her gifting, receiving healing, and learning to lead with honesty, courage, and a God-focused life. Together, we reflect on the unseen formation that prepares us to serve others well, and how vulnerability and humility unlock true influence.

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