Claudia Gold, M.D. is a developmental pediatrician who has just published her fifth book Getting to Know You: Lessons in Early Relational Health From Infants and Caregivers. She has previously been on this podcast when we talked about her book The Developmental Science of Early Childhood (2017).

Dr Gold discusses how early infant-caregiver relationship serve as a prototype for all the relationships that follow. She talks about the importance of just observing your infant and that relationships are always messy. As a pediatrician she is well versed in practical advice, however in this interview and in her book she talks about what do when nothing seems to work. She illustrates how taking a stance of "not knowing" can often help relationship heal and move on