So, why isn’t air pollution being cut faster? It’s 10 years since nine-year-old Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah died – she was the first person in the UK to have air pollution recorded as a cause of death. Her mum Rosamund talks to De-Graft and Cherry about her daughter and why she’s so frustrated at the pace of change.

Hip-hop legend Chuck D from Public Enemy drops in to talk about his new doc that’s dropping on BBC iPlayer and BBC Two on Saturday... and he can’t help growling at De-Graft.

And R&B singer Jaz Karis explains why she unhappy with the Brit Awards.