Surrender. Katherine speaks this week to Sahlah Dubel of Divine by Design about what her dreams are teaching her about letting go. Sahlah speaks about how taking care of her six week old baby Cedar has put her in a place where she is needing to let her dreams work in the background. When a dream breaks through, she pays extra attention! Sahlah shares a dream in which she is on the back of a sea creature and can only submerge after she finds herself telling herself to let go. This leads to a moving conversation about moving forward even while afraid which she applies to decisions about her job as well as to her spiritual life.

BIO: Sahlah Dubel is co-founder of Divine by Design, a corporation dedicated to supporting community resilience and holistic wellness. As a generational dreamer, dream integration was essential to her family’s paradigm for emotional wellness. A he’s facilitates dreaming workshops providing techniques to navigate dreams and embrace lucid living.

Find our guest at: DivineByDesign.org @DivinebyDesignTeam @divinebydesigninc

Sahlah and her brother Wolf aka Andrusa Lawson are co-founders of Divine by Design and both have been on several episodes already. You can find their pieces here:

Death and the Spaces between, with Sahlah Dubel

Death and Lucid Living with Sahlah Dubel

Divine by Design with Sahlah and Andrusa

Dream Sharing as Sacred Story Telling with Andrusa Lawson

Red Dreams and Shadow Work with Andrusa Lawson

Show aired on December 9, 2023.

Intro music is Water over Stones and outro music is Everything both by Mood Science. Ambient music is created new every week by Rick Kleffel. The audio can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick Kleffel for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for answering the phones.

Contact Katherine Bell with feedback or suggestions for future shows at [email protected]. Follow her on FB and IG @ExperientialDreamwork to find out about upcoming shows. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams with her go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

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