Cursive's Tim Kasher and I talk about the early days of Saddle Creek and the first two Bright Eyes records, A Collection of Songs Written and Recorded 1995-1997 and Letting Off the Happiness.  Also discussed: Antique stores, early Cursive records, 14-year-old Conor, what bound Saddle Creek bands, Emo, the Oberst household, Saddle Creek isn’t really a creek, Letting Off the Happiness was monumental, small town music scenes, Tim keeping the Devil away by making art. Extra shit and a Bright Eyes zine for you! patreon.com/afterthedeluge Tim's new record, Middling Age: https://timkasher.bandcamp.com/album/middling-age 

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Tim Kasher: twitter.com/timkasher