John Helmer talks to Myles Runham, a well respected learning consultant who has held senior leadership roles at the BBC and Ask.com, about the evolving role of L&D. Myles shares some evolving ideas about how the role should be reframed to reflect the changing realities of the digital age, moving from a focus on courses and projects to thinking like the manager of a natural ecosystem, where not everything can be tamed and controlled. This involves being hands-off in some areas and allowing elements of 'wildness' into the picture. The impact of Covid-19 is discussed, which has been beneficial in some respects, as well as potential blockers to overcome.   02:06 L&D as service management 05:42 L&D and the ecosystem 08:00 Relinquishing control 10:16 What's wrong with the current L&D role? 11:39 Managing stakeholder expectations 13:44 What new skills or hires might be needed? 15:49 The role of data 19:50 Examples 'in the wild' 25:04 Blockers 27:40 The opportunity offered by Covid 30:30 Rewilding L&D 36:35 Top tips for rewilding L&D   Myles's website: https://mylesrunham.com/ Myles's Blog: mylesrun.wordpress.com/   Contact Myles LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/myles-runham Twitter: @mylesrun   Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: Theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/   Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/