John talks to Harold Jarche, blogger, speaker and consultant in the closely adjacent but oddly separate worlds of learning and knowledge management. People at work need more than skills training and compliance learning. They have to navigate the complex knowledge environment that technology has given us, using concepts and tools that are part of an emerging field described by figures such as George Siemens, Dave Snowden, and Harold himself. Harold talks about Personal Knowledge Mastery (PKM), his own take on this, in a wide-ranging discussion that ranges over sensemaking, wayfinding, the influence of military training and the current state of social media. 02:44 - Is he in learning or knowledge management? 05:24 - Sensemaking and wayfinding 10:18 - Personal Knowledge Mastery (PKM) 17:40 - How can PKM be supported within the L&D workflow? 23:31 - Is it hard for L&D to think about groups rather than individuals? 27:24 - How can the learning tech stack support PKM? 29:47 - Has military background influenced his thinking? 36:34 - Is the current state of social media less useful for PKM? Harold's website: https://jarche.com/ Mentioned in the discussion: Dave Snowden https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/david-snowden-profiles-knowledge-stan-garfield/ Lilia Efimova https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lilia-efimova-profiles-knowledge-stan-garfield/ The Long Now Foundation: https://longnow.org/ Metamodernism (Metamodernity): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamodernism Contact Harold LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jarche Twitter: @hjarche Contact John Helmer Twitter: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: http://johnhelmerconsulting.com/ Download the new white paper from Learning Pool written by John Helmer – 'Experience: theory, design and supporting technologies for an experience-based learning culture' https://learningpool.com/theory-design-and-supporting-technologies-for-an-experience-based-learning-culture/