In this episode, Robert welcomes Lylla Younes, senior staff writer at Grist on to the the podcast. Grist is a nonprofit, independent media organization dedicated to telling stories of climate solutions and a just future.

Here Lylla covers environmental investigations and environmental justice. She was previously a reporter and developer at ProPublica, where her work mapping cancer-causing industrial pollution in Louisiana helped lead to the suspension of Formosa Plastic's permit in St. James Parish, and won the 2020 Nina Mason Pulliam Award for Outstanding Environmental Reporting. In 2020, she was part of a team that wrote a peer-reviewed paper linking COVID deaths to air pollution.

In this episode Robert and Lylla discuss a wide range of topics and some of her her articles, including how Berkeley became the first city in the United States to ban natural, fossil gas hook-ups in new buildings.