We are LIVE from the 50th anniversary of the BMW Berlin Marathon! And you know what they say about live events—anything can happen! In this case... it did! An audio equipment failure caused us to lose about 8 minutes of our live recording, including Catherine Debrunner's intro, so bear with us for the glitch! We promise, this show is worth it!

In this bonus episode, Rob records live from the New Balance Center for Modern Running in Berlin less than 48 hours before the start of the 2024 BMW Berlin Marathon! Rob chats with BMW Berlin Marathon women’s wheelchair division defending champion and course record holder, Catherine Debrunner of Switzerland, about flat vs. hilly marathon courses—Catherine also won and set a course record at the 2023 TCS New York City Marathon last November—how she balances training with her other profession, teaching, and more. Then Rob gets on the other side of the mic when he’s interviewed by TCS New York City Marathon Race Director and NYRR SVP of Events, Ted Metellus, about Rob’s own running, as he’ll be running Berlin on Sunday too—his first marathon since running New York in 2013! And finally, we have an interview with NYRR and TFK member Arlene Rivera that will make you laugh and might also inspire you to run a little bit farther!

You won’t want to miss this fun, lively, exciting, and inspiring episode ahead of the 50th running of the BMW Berlin Marathon on Sunday, September 29!

Catherine Debrunner is a remarkable Swiss athlete who has made huge waves in the world of wheelchair racing. Born with a spinal birth defect, Catherine began her journey in sports at just eight years old and, in recent years, has become a dominant force on the track and the road. She recently made headlines by setting new course records at the Berlin, Chicago, and the TCS New York City Marathon. On top of all of those feats, she is also a five-time gold medalist from the 2024 Paralympics in Paris. Catherine’s accomplishments and story also caught the attention of our partners at New Balance, and she is an official Team New Balance athlete, prominently featured in their newly updated "Run Your Way" campaign.

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