We’re headed off to TRE, but first we recap our Thanksgiving weekends including turkey trots and family fun. Eventually, we talk about our experience in the Brooks Glycerin Flex, a daily trainer with an ultra flexible midsole.

Glycerin Flex: https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/glycerin-flex.html

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MAURTEN

We crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wore them for the JFK 50 Mile race and finished with ZERO blisters, so we're not sure how else we can convince you to buy a pair. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

Guess what? Yes, we used LMNT before and during the JFK 50 Mile race. Robbe downed 4 packets during the actual race and got through with zero cramps or headaches. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

If you're anything like Taylor and Reese, you're hard to buy gifts for. They are here helping us all out whether you're a trail runner or getting something for a trail runner. We have reviewed a lot of gift-worthy gear this year. Here are some of our favorites in all price categories.

Guest: Dan Green has had a major year of trail running with a race calendar and results that any trail runner would dream of! The Maurten/ Salomon pro talks about how he got into running in the first place, his rise to an elite level, and whether he even considers himself as a professional.

Robbe talks with Andy Wynne, founder of Nuyarn, leading the way in Merino technology. It's a deep dive into one of our favorite materials on earth.

Learn more about Nuyarn: https://nuyarn.com/

Check out our guide to running in Merino: https://believeintherun.com/gear-reviews/merino-wool-guide-for-winter-running/

Thomas and Robbe recap all the ups and downs of their traverse through the JFK 50 Mile race, which turned out to be much better than their initial test run of the trail portion. Also, Winter GRIT registration opens at 9 a.m. TODAY (November 28), so make sure you get in on it before it sells out! Plus, we just announced our first ever shoe collab with Mount to Coast, which comes out in Spring 2026. Register for Winter GRIT: https://www.believeintherun.com/grit

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MAURTEN

We crushed nearly a dozen Maurtens each for the JFK 50 Mile race, finishing strong without bonking.

Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We wore them for the JFK 50 Mile race and finished with ZERO blisters, so we're not sure how else we can convince you to buy a pair.

Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com

LMNT

Guess what? Yes, we used LMNT before and during the JFK 50 Mile race. Robbe downed 4 packets during the actual race and got through with zero cramps or headaches. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort.

Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

Reese gives the full recap on an epic day at the historic JFK 50 miler with the Believe in the Run Crew.

Guest: Tim Tollefson is on the Drop for the second time. This time, he's wearing his race director's hat. Taylor and Tim talk about the challenges and privileges of hosting an event like Mammoth Trailfest.

Robbe talks with Michael Doughty, founder of Hylo Athletics, about his vision for the brand, his life as a premier league footballer, and much more.

Check out Hylo Athletics: https://us.hyloathletics.com/Follow Hylo Athletics on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hyloathletics

Matcha is in, pumpkin spice is out, and we're your performative podcast to get you through your long run. We cover the whole spectrum of what goes on in our cranial cavities, from bib banditing to buying mountains in Maine. We also talk about the Brooks Glycerin Max 2, which seems to be quite different from v1.

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MAURTEN

The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used Maurten to fuel their race efforts, including all three women finishing under the previous course record. We also used Maurten for our entire race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We'll be wearing them for all the JFK 50 Mile race next weekend, knowing that they'll keep us comfortable and blister free the whole time. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com/products/chicago

LMNT

We used LMNT before and during the New York City Marathon to keep our salt and electrolyte levels topped off, and we'll be using them all day at JFK. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX0:00 - Intro1:02 - Matcha Tea / PSL (Pumpkin Spice Latte) 5:13 - Final Reflections on JFK 5013:20 - Des Linden's "The Next Chapter" 16:13 - NYC Marathon and Influencers / Bib Banditing 33:25 - "Official Unofficial Time" / Additional Run and Shoe Talk49:54 - Camp David / Maine Mountains / Karl Is A Big Presidents' Guy57:04 - Brooks Glycerin Max 2 / More Shoe Talk / Closing Thoughts

Reese and Taylor start by talking about training and Taylor's trip to the NYC marathon. Then, they chat about all things JFK. Not only is the race unique, it's a sentimental homecoming for Reese.Guest: Epic Bill earned his name after heartbreak. His sucessful video store business collapsed which led him to approach new challenges the only way he knew how - show up and suffer. He has become known as the man who will not quit whether that means taking on the hardest endurance spectacles across the globe or daily training. Taylor and Bill talk about what led him to endurance feats and highlight his new documentary "Epic Bill."

Check out Epic Bill's documentary: https://www.epicbillfilm.com/

Trail Run Adventures provides some of the most incredible all-inclusive and guided trail running excursions in some of the most epic places around the globe. Use code BELIEVE100 to save $100 when you sign up for a Trail Run Adventures experience: https://www.trailrunadventures.com/

Robbe chats with Cole Townsend of Running Supply about his love of run culture, his favorite brands right now, and what's trending. They also discuss the state of running and the final boss question: has run culture peaked?

Subscribe to the Running Supply Substack: https://runningsupply.substack.com/

Hit scan on your car radio and tune in to this week's episode of The Drop, where Thomas and Robbe recap their adventurous 14-mile trail run as part of their JFK 50 Mile preview. Suffice it say, these city boys are ready to go for next weekend, whether that's true or not. We also talk about the R.A.D UFO, a running shoe that kind of came out of nowhere and stole our hearts.

Check out R.A.D: https://rad-global.com/collections/r-a-d-ufo

Check out Atwill: https://runatwill.com/

SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!

SWIFTWICK

You already know that Swiftwick makes our favorite socks for running, from training to race day. We'll be wearing them for all the JFK 50 Mile race next weekend, knowing that they'll keep us comfortable and blister free the whole time. Get your pair today: https://swiftwick.com/

MAURTEN

The top two men and top three women at the New York City Marathon used Maurten to fuel their race efforts, including all three women finishing under the previous course record. We also used Maurten for our entire race, finishing strong without bonking. Stock up for your own fall races and save 15% off your order by using this link and code Believe15: https://bit.ly/BITR-MAURTEN

LMNT

We used LMNT before and during the New York City Marathon to keep our salt and electrolyte levels topped off, and we'll be using them all day at JFK. With 1,000 mg of sodium plus other key electrolytes, LMNT helps restore balance to your life after any hard effort. Order today and get an 8-count LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase, so don't miss out: http://drinklmnt.com/thedrop

INDEX

0:00 - Intro

1:25 - NYC Bartenders / Gimmicky Music / Seek+Scan Car Radios

12:25 - Thomas and Robbe's JFK Preview Run / JFK Course Overview

54:26 - Gear Talk for JFK / Day Raves

1:03:04 - R.A.D UFO / RIP Gorewear + Deckers X Lab / Closing Thoughts

1:26:38 - JFK Preview Run Featurette