In episode nine I talk about the Jackson Browne albums Lives in the Balance and World in Motion with Holly Gleason, whom you might remember from the Running on Empty episode. Holly is the author of Woman, Walk the Line: How the Women in Country Music Changed our Lives. She’s written for dozens of publications including Rolling Stone, American Songwriter, LA Times and more. She cowrote the #1 song "Better as a Memory." Find more on Holly at hollygleason.com.

After a brief intro and a look at the original 1986 Rolling Stone review by Jimmy Guterman, our conversation starts around the 3 minute mark. We take a snappy break at the 30 minute mark to look at the 1989 Rolling Stone review by David Fricke before jumping right back into our conversation.

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This talk took place the day after George Floyd was killed, but before most of us (myself included) had seen the horrific video, let alone processed its significance. For that reason, you won’t hear it mentioned in this conversation. In this episode we talk a whole lot about the power of speaking up against injustice, and if you want to find parallels to present day, they await you in this conversation about Jackson Browne's two most overtly political albums. 

I discussed Floyd's death at the top of last week’s Lawyers in Love episode and I regret not sharing a place where people can donate. The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund lets you choose where your donation will go, from voting rights to police reform to education. Just visit their site (naacpldf.org), click Donate, and note your preference before you check out. 

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