The mother of ten adopted children with special needs is murdered. Lupo and Bernard find she was reluctant to star in the reality show her husband (played by Jim Gaffigan) wanted to do...and next in line is another mom of ten - including septuplets - determined to get the show. Later, Rubirosa gets burned by reality TV.

We're talking about Law & Order season 20 episode 4 Reality Bites. Our guest is Tara Ariano from the Extra Hot Great podcast.

This episode takes some inspiration from the story of the so-called "Octomom," Nadya Sulema.

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