Sometimes the smartest move isn’t to fight harder… it’s to step back and fight better.

This week Shawn catches up with actress, dancer, designer, and creative powerhouse, Megan Batoon, for a deep, refreshingly honest conversation about what it really means to lose the battle to win the war.

The two discuss how messy and consistent action can save you when perfection can’t, the importance of recognizing the fights that drain you versus the ones that actually move you forward, and why quitting isn’t always a failure, sometimes it’s just an intermission.

If you’ve ever wrestled with whether to pivot, pause, or press on, this chat will give you the clarity to choose the battles that actually help you win the war.

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