In a departure from my usual coverage of British murder cases, I bring you an off-season collaboration episode that delves into a mysterious and highly debated case from the Republic of Panama, Central America.

Mark and Bethan join me from the excellent Seeing Red true crime podcast, with Mark telling us the story of Dutch students Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, who disappeared on April 1, 2014, whilst hiking the El Pianista Trail in the country's mountain town of Boquete.

Two months later, the remains of whom most people accept belonged to the two women were found, including a pelvic bone and a foot still inside a boot. Lisanne's appeared to have decomposed naturally, but strangely, Kris' bones were stark white, as if they had been bleached.

Their causes of death have never been determined. A backpack recovered by a local contained a camera with 90 photos taken on April 8 between 1 am and 4 am. Most of the images are of near-complete darkness. However, some slightly clearer ones, including one showing the back of what's believed to be Kris's head, have led to debates over who took them and what happened to the two women.

I recently appeared on an episode of Seeing Red when I told Mark and Bethan the tragic story of the murder of Orianna Crilly-Cifrova. You can listen to it here:

S10 Ep10: The Murder of 13-month-old Orianna Crilly-Cifrova

You can find and support Seeing Red at seeingredpodcast.co.uk

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Intro music:⁣

David John Brady - 'Throw Down the Gauntlet'⁣

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