Stefanie and Jackie unpack the bombshell news that Kaitlyn and Jason have announced their split. Plus, updates on the situation, like Kaitlyn admitting "the door is still open" for a reconciliation and Jason's emotional podcast intro. Also, Ben reacts to Lauren's latest confession on Shawn's podcast.

Casey Woods joins in to talk about his time on Michelle's season, his drama from Bachelor in Paradise, and why he would never return to the show.

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