M&A Science

Johanna Jaakola – Integration Lead, Corporate Development Integration Team, Cisco

Tesia Hostetler – Leader, Acquisition Integration Practice, Cisco Johanna Jaakola, Integration Lead on Cisco's Corporate Development Integration Team, and Tesia Hostetler, Leader of Cisco's Acquisition Integration Practice, share how one of the world's most prolific acquirers structures deals for success. This episode breaks down Cisco's integration-led diligence model, where integration leads orchestrate due diligence from the deal thesis stage, ensuring strategic alignment and execution readiness before ink hits paper. Learn how Cisco's structured approach to integration strategy, two-stage approvals, and tight feedback loops between strategy and execution have transformed their M&A outcomes—with insights from their $28 billion Splunk acquisition.

• Why integration leads should orchestrate diligence
• How creating an integration thesis alongside your deal thesis ensures every diligence question tests strategic assumptions and drives execution clarity
• How Cisco's dual approval process (one to negotiate LOI, another for final purchase agreement) creates natural checkpoints to validate strategy before committing capital

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[00:02:00] Cisco's Integration Leadership Team

[00:06:00] Role Clarity – Integration Lead vs. Integration Practice Leader

[00:10:00] How Cisco evolved from integration showing up late to embedding integration thinking at the earliest deal thesis conversations.

[00:15:00] Testing Assumptions Through Diligence

[00:22:00] How Cisco reorganized corporate development to eliminate silos between deal strategy and integration execution, creating tighter feedback loops.

[00:29:00] Two-Stage Approvals – Protecting Value with Structured Gates [00:33:00] Integration Leads Diligence – The Air Traffic Controller Model

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Tim Hall buys small companies at five to six times EBITDA and has typically sold the platforms he builds at 12 to 14 times. He calls that gap "earned arbitrage," and it only shows up when the add-ons are actually integrated.

After 29 years in private equity and 200+ add-ons, Tim explains why he doesn't think in roll-ups at all, and how Brenton Point's independent sponsor model raises capital deal by deal. He walks through his hub, spoke, and route criteria for add-ons, why a 15% management equity pool beats owning 90% of a smaller outcome, and the culture test he runs on every site walk.

Tim's team has closed eight acquisitions in 16 months with integrations running on top of each other. Every one runs from a 150-point checklist in DealRoom, so the data room doesn't turn into a filing cabinet at close. See how Easton Select Group closed six deals in the first 5 months: click here.

Stefan Williams, Vice President of Corporate Development and Snowflake Ventures at Snowflake, leads the company's acquisition strategy, corporate venture capital, and startup accelerator programs. In this episode, Stefan takes us inside Snowflake's disciplined, culture-first approach to M&A—from building the corporate development function from scratch to executing 20+ acquisitions while maintaining breakneck organic growth. He shares hard-won lessons on integration accountability, why relationships matter more than auctions, and how to balance proactive deal-making with the realities of a fast-moving AI landscape.

Things You'll Learn

• Start small and build M&A muscle – Why Snowflake began with sub-50 person acquisitions to prove integration capabilities before scaling to larger, more complex deals

• Integration accountability drives success – The critical importance of assigning DRIs (Directly Responsible Individuals) with clear timelines at 30, 60, 90, and 180 days post-close

• Buyer-led beats reactive – How investing time in proactive CEO relationships and strategic alignment dramatically improves deal outcomes versus responding to banker processes

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

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Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON

Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you'll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything's practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves.

October 16th — NYC 8AM-7:30PM Request an invite here: https://luma.com/khkuh6yw

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[00:02:30] From Banking to Building – Stefan's journey from investment banking to building corporate development teams at ServiceNow and Snowflake

[00:04:30] How the "amp it up" mentality shapes every aspect of operations, including M&A strategy

[00:07:00] Why high-growth companies must begin with digestible acquisitions to develop integration capabilities

[00:10:00] Week One Playbook – How to build a corporate development function from scratch by interviewing product leaders and aligning on strategy

[00:14:00] Managing internal relationships across product, engineering, and go-to-market to maintain strategic clarity

[00:21:00] Strategic Ventures, Not Financial Bets

[00:27:00] Integration DRIs and the Marriage Analogy

[00:37:30] Managing Three Concurrent Deals

[00:42:00] Why nearly all 20 Snowflake acquisitions involved prior relationships and how buyer-led strategy wins

[00:48:30] Navigating the AI Explosion – Staying current in a landscape where companies scale from zero to $100M in years, not decades

Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.

Hilary Shirazi, Head of Corporate Development at Notion, brings over a decade of M&A experience from LinkedIn, Pinterest, and Zendesk to discuss building corporate development strategy at high-growth tech companies. She shares her proven deal thesis methodology, the "Four T's" framework for categorizing acquisitions, and why integration without an IMO might be the better approach for agile teams.

Things you will learn:

• The Deal Thesis Framework – How to crystallize strategy before identifying targets using Hilary's proven document template

• The Four T's of M&A – Talent, Tech, Traction, and Terrain categories that determine your acquisition approach and integration strategy

• Integration Without IMO – Why embedding integration throughout the process beats traditional handoff models for most deals

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

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Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON

Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you'll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything's practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves.

October 16th — NYC 8AM-7:30PM Request an invite here: https://luma.com/khkuh6yw

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[00:02:00] Hilary's career evolution and why in-house M&A beats advisory work

[00:05:00] Building M&A Best Practices – Why starting at a mature organization teaches critical fundamentals before going solo

[00:08:30] Getting to know executives' M&A fears and biases before sourcing deals

[00:11:00] The Deal Thesis Methodology – Creating strategy documents before naming targets to avoid "solution shopping"

[00:16:00] Deal Sponsor Selection

[00:20:00] Front-Loading Vision Alignment

[00:30:00] The Four T's Framework – Categorizing acquisitions as Talent, Tech, Traction, or Terrain deals

[00:35:00] Integration Without IMO – Why Corp Dev should own integration instead of handing off to separate teams

[00:42:00] Using Notion for M&A

[00:51:00] AI in Corporate Development Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.

Jennifer Miller, Senior Director of Corporate Development at Oshkosh Corporation, brings over 24 years of M&A experience spanning investment banking, boutique advisory, and corporate development. In this episode, she reveals how Oshkosh evolved their corporate venture capital approach from CVC 1.0's financial focus to CVC 2.0's strategic innovation partnerships. Jennifer shares practical insights on managing 400+ deal flow annually, structuring IP agreements, and balancing minority investments with traditional M&A within a single corporate development function.

Things You'll Learn

• CVC 2.0 Framework: How to evolve from pure financial returns to strategic innovation partnerships that accelerate technology adoption

• Deal Flow Management: Systematic approach to evaluate 400+ companies annually using thematic prioritization and rapid technical diligence

• IP Structuring: Strategic methods for negotiating exclusivity, co-development agreements, and future acquisition rights without limiting startup growth

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

____________________ Today's episode of the M&A Science Podcast is brought to you by Grata!

Grata is the leading private market dealmaking platform. With its best-in-class AI workflows and investment-grade data, Grata helps investors, advisors, and strategic acquirers effortlessly discover, research, and connect with potential targets — all in one sleek, user-friendly interface. Visit grata.com to learn more.

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[00:02:30] Corporate Development Evolution – Jennifer's 24-year journey from investment banking to strategic partnerships

[00:05:00] CVC 2.0 Philosophy – Shifting from financial investments to innovation-first partnerships

[00:10:00] Balancing M&A and CVC – Managing traditional acquisitions alongside minority investments in one team

[00:16:00] Proof of Concept Budget – How Oshkosh funds cross-business unit technology pilots

[00:20:30] Deal Flow Sourcing – Processing 400+ companies annually through thematic prioritization

[00:24:00] IP and Acquisition Rights – Structuring exclusivity and information rights without limiting startup exits

[00:31:00] Strategic Value Proposition – What startups gain from corporate investors beyond capital

[00:36:00] Integration Management – Preventing startup overwhelm while ensuring technology adoption

[00:41:30] Startup Positioning Advice – How entrepreneurs should approach strategic versus financial investors

Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.

Nicole Markowski - Former Director of Business Integration and Operations, Wipfli

Join Nicole as she shares unvarnished truths from managing 30+ transactions. Nicole reveals how integration-led diligence prevents value destruction, why traditional deal economics often miss critical human factors, and practical strategies for maintaining the human touch while scaling M&A programs from 3 to 16 concurrent deals.

• Why integration leaders must be involved in deal economics discussions to prevent value destruction
• How to scale M&A operations from 2-3 to 16+ concurrent deals without losing the human touch
• The critical difference between project managers and true integration leaders in M&A success

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

____________________

Join us for the 3rd M&A Science Fair IN PERSON

Get pure, off-the-record collaboration between corporate development, private equity, and integration leaders. Instead of passive listening, you'll be sharing real frameworks, trading ideas, and testing what actually works in modern deal execution. Everything's practitioner-led, and every topic is surfaced by the attendees themselves.

October 16th — NYC 8AM-7:30PM Request an invite here: https://luma.com/khkuh6yw

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[00:02:00] Engineering an M&A Career – From Accenture consultant to integration expert

[00:04:00] Tale of Two Velocities – Contrasting measured vs high-volume M&A approaches

[00:07:00] Why cost pool analysis can destroy deal value

[00:17:00] When Sellers Walk Away – The Mac vs PC deal breaker story

[00:22:00] Integration-Led Diligence – Why integration leaders should quarterback due diligence

[00:32:00] Keeping It Human at Scale

[00:37:00] Bridging cultural gaps in professional services

[00:47:00] Beyond Project Management – What makes a true integration leader

[00:53:00] When IT Walks Out – Crisis management

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Byron Lichtenstein, Managing Director at Insight Partners Byron brings over a decade of experience scaling M&A operations across one of the world's leading software investors. In this episode, Byron breaks down how Insight executes buyer-led M&A at scale, supporting CEOs across their 500+ portfolio companies from sourcing through integration. He shares frameworks for strategic positioning, the critical difference between types of M&A deals, and why strategy must drive every acquisition decision. M&A professionals will learn how to build repeatable M&A processes and avoid the common trap of unfocused deal-making.

Things You'll Learn

• Strategic positioning framework: How to "write the S-1 on day one" and create a clear 5-year vision that guides every M&A decision
• M&A categorization strategy: The three core types of M&A (market consolidation, product expansion, geographic expansion) and how to execute each differently
• Integration execution: Why integration must be 100% of someone's job and how to build flexible 100-day plans that actually get executed

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The Buyer-Led M&A™ Summit is back.The virtual event built for dealmakers who want to eliminate chaos and take control from sourcing through integration. 📅 October 30, 2025 🕚 11:00 AM – 2:30 PM ET 💻 Free & Virtual Learn from leaders who've built scalable, repeatable strategies that keep deals on track - Register now.

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M&A Doesn't Have to Be So Painful 💔🥀

Get Optimized with DealRoom DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth.

👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process

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Episode Timestamps:

[00:02:00] Building M&A at Scale – Byron's journey scaling Insight's portfolio support from 6 to 120 people across 500+ companies

[00:06:30] The Evolution of Software Roll-Ups – How the market shifted from simple consolidation plays to product-focused strategic acquisitions

[00:10:30] The NMI Case Study – Real example of product expansion M&A strategy in the payments infrastructure space

[00:14:00] Focus vs. Expansion Dilemma – When to stay focused on core customers versus expanding to new segments and markets

[00:28:30] Strategic Positioning Framework – The "write the S-1 on day one" approach to creating long-term M&A vision

[00:35:00] Founder-Led But Not Founder-Limited – Key qualities that determine which founders scale successfully through M&A

[00:38:00] Integration Planning and 100-Day Plans – Why someone needs to own integration full-time and how to build flexible execution plans

[00:48:30] AI and the Future of M&A – How AI is changing software M&A and the Optimizely orchestration layer case study

[00:52:30] Market Sophistication – Why software buyers are becoming more discerning and what this means for deal strategy Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.

Javier Enrile, Managing Director of M&A at TIAA In this episode, he breaks down the art and science of thinking like a strategic buyer—from building proprietary deal pipelines through relationship-first sourcing to using sophisticated valuation techniques that separate intrinsic value from market noise. Javier reveals why patient relationship building beats aggressive auction processes, how to structure deals that protect against downside risk, and the critical integration between valuation, diligence, and deal structuring that separates successful acquirers from the rest. Things you will learn:

• How to build proprietary deal flow through relationship-first sourcing that creates competitive advantages over auction processes
• The framework for separating standalone intrinsic value from synergy premiums using DCF analysis, especially in cross-border situations
• Deal structuring tools like priority returns, earnouts, and rep & warranty policies that protect buyers when deals underperform

_____________ Today's episode of the M&A Science Podcast is brought to you by Grata!

Grata is the leading private market dealmaking platform. With its best-in-class AI workflows and investment-grade data, Grata helps investors, advisors, and strategic acquirers effortlessly discover, research, and connect with potential targets — all in one sleek, user-friendly interface. Visit grata.com to learn more.

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M&A Doesn't Have to Be So Painful 💔🥀

Get Optimized with DealRoom DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth.

👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process

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Episode Timestamps: [00:02:30] From Sell-Side to Buy-Side – Why strategic M&A combines PE rigor with strategic thinking

[00:08:00] Strategy Before Deals – The three-step framework for aligning inorganic growth with business strategy

[00:12:00] Building Proprietary Pipeline – Relationship-first sourcing and managing 10-20 active targets effectively [00:20:30] Valuation Methodology Deep Dive – DCF vs. comps and why intrinsic value drives better decisions

[00:25:00] Cross-Border Valuation Complexity – Modeling currency risk and geopolitical premiums in international deals

[00:29:00] Deal Structuring for Risk Management – Priority returns, earnouts, and protecting against downside scenarios

[00:39:30] The Integration Feedback Loop – How valuation, diligence, and integration planning inform each other

[00:47:00] When Theory Meets Reality – A negotiation story about rational assumptions and irrational responses

Xavier Gury, Founding Partner at Wind Xavier Gury, founding partner at Wind venture capital firm, brings a unique triple perspective to M&A: serial entrepreneur, acquisition target, and now investor. In this episode, Xavier unpacks the critical lessons from his three successful exits, including one transformative deal with Publicis, where he structured a performance-based earnout that prioritized terms over upfront valuation. The conversation reveals why 90% of the deal value came through earnout performance, how to align teams during integration, and the strategic mistakes buyers make when acquiring founder-led companies. M&A professionals will learn practical frameworks for structuring deals that actually work post-close. Things You'll Learn

• Why deal terms matter more than valuation – and how Xavier structured an earnout where only 10% was paid upfront
• The "yin yang" principle for balanced M&A deals that create value for both buyer and seller
• How to incentivize key employees during earnout periods to ensure alignment and execution success

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Today's episode of the M&A Science Podcast is brought to you by Grata!

Grata is the leading private market dealmaking platform. With its best-in-class AI workflows and investment-grade data, Grata helps investors, advisors, and strategic acquirers effortlessly discover, research, and connect with potential targets — all in one sleek, user-friendly interface. Visit grata.com to learn more.

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M&A Doesn't Have to Be So Painful 💔🥀 Get Optimized with DealRoom DealRoom helps corporate development teams take control—streamlining diligence, syncing integration, and eliminating the back-and-forth. 👉 Learn how you can run a repeatable, buyer-led process

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[00:02:00] Xavier's unconventional path from teaching AltaVista to founding startups

[00:08:30] How a 10-person company acquired a 100-person competitor during market consolidation

[00:14:00] Timing the Publicis Exit – Why selling to the "worst" digital player created the biggest value creation opportunity

[00:18:00] How market timing generated 5x vs 12x EBITDA multiples from different buyer types

[00:21:30] Breaking down the deal where upfront payment was only 10% of total value

[00:26:00] The equity strategy that made earnout management effortless

[00:31:00] The Yin Yang M&A Principle – Why balanced deals create 1+1=3 value instead of destroying it

[00:38:00] How VCs navigate the schizophrenic nature of investment lifecycle

[00:43:00] Terms vs Valuation Deep Dive

[00:47:00] The $50 Billion Mistake Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.

Arash Attar-Rezvani - M&A Partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP

In part two of this masterclass conversation, Arash Attar-Rezvani gets into the execution challenges that separate successful M&A practitioners from the rest. From deconstructing French labor consultation myths to revealing how AI will reshape legal advisory models, this segment delivers actionable frameworks for advanced deal execution.

• How to structure aggressive workforce reduction plans within French labor laws and turn compliance into deal terms
• The psychology of cross-cultural deal-making and why listening trumps being the loudest voice in the room
• How AI will reshape M&A legal services and why success fees may replace hourly billing

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[00:33:00] French Labor Law Reality – Why employment consultation is easier than American buyers think [00:36:00] Aggressive Cost Synergy Planning – How to structure 40% workforce reductions within European frameworks [00:40:00] Cross-Cultural Negotiation Mastery – Reading the room and adapting communication styles for French business culture [00:47:00] Defining High-Stakes Transactions – Why people's livelihoods matter more than dollar amounts in deal significance [00:51:30] First-of-Kind Deal Innovation – Creating the Luxembourg/Hong Kong take-private structure when no legal path existed [00:55:30] AI's Impact on Legal Advisory – How automation will force fee model evolution and reshape junior lawyer training [01:01:30] Deal Structure Evolution – From SPACs boom-bust to emerging PE club deals and earnout complications [01:06:30] Partnership Career Strategy – Why obsessing over partnership tracks derails early career development [01:10:00] Integrity Under Pressure – Handling government interference and corruption while maintaining client relationships

Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.