Artist Madeline Kiel joins us to share the winding road that led her back to art after quitting at 13 due to bullying. From missionary work in China to living in public housing and working with addicts, Madeline’s story is anything but linear.

We talk about her shift from music to visual art, the visions of Black, Native, and Mexican cowboys that wouldn’t leave her alone, and how a viral portrait of Snoop launched her unexpected art career.

She opens up about being misunderstood online, wrestling with who gets to tell what stories, and how letting go of outcome is where the magic happens.

Plus, she’s heading to Italy for her first formal art training—and maybe a little Italian love. 💚🤍❤️

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